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Originally Posted by SiThSpAwN

I think they should just not say anything about when they expect a patch. I wanna know what they are working on, but no more timelines, no more Maybe this week maybe next. Too many people here think the forum is made of stone, and that everything written in it is law. Take the Eagle Dynamics mind set, it will be available for download when its ready, dont ask when that is, its done when its done.

Agreed 100%

Originally Posted by SiThSpAwN

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Originally Posted by FS~Phat

I agree with Frey. It might be considered a better development if it were a sealed section for hater members only but then I guess they would get bored of it pretty quickly because they wouldn't have anyone to troll. LoL

Bingo!

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

We get told they have fixed a major bug (last week it was 5 mins ago) and all the rest of the work has been carried out, but then the following week it never ever seems to go well and we are back to square one not Knowing what has happened.

What you just described is known as beta testing in the software world.. Minus the square one comment, which is just your opinion.

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

Nobody from the team makes any announcement about what has happened

Which is true of many software companies..

Where they found it silly to spend a lot of time and effort explaining the results of a beta patch..

In that the full intent of a beta patch is to release it knowing in advance 'some' aspects are unfinished, un-optimized, or flat out broken

But the purpose (hope) is by releasing a beta patch they can obtain feedback from the community as to 'other' aspects of the program.

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

and some people start to think they are just been taken for a ride.

Fixed that for ya

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

I have said it before and i'll say it till I am blue in the face, don't keep saying you are trying to push out a patch each week until you know for certain it works. Then you can tell everyone when you are going to release it - SIMPLES!!

Which is what they do with a final release patch, but don't do, on purpose, with a beta patch.

The whole purpose of putting out a beta patch is to 'see' if it works..

If not..

Find and fix what is broken..

wash rinse repeat

Until they can find no more errors

And even after all that there is no guarantee (ie be 'certain')

But they do this so they can be as 'certain' as they can be when they release the 'official' patch.

The only real mistake 1C makes in all this is when they assume the users of beta patches understand what beta patch means. In that based on the responses in this thread and others that is clearly not the case!