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Old 08-01-2012, 08:58 AM
Sternjaeger II Sternjaeger II is offline
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I dunno what's more deluded, the fact that you wanna save the whole of the humanity (which, as hard as it is, is just against nature), or the fact that you still think that all this is because of guns.

The problem is human nature and abuse of free will. Nobody forces you to become a criminal, it's down to whether you can deal with being "the baddie" or not.
In the end of the day it's about society values: people that can't get wealthy honestly and are ready to compromise with their conscience will do so.
And as you can imagine many do, and often convince themselves that deep inside they do it for a good reason, but it doesn't change the fact that their misconduct might take them in front of a barrel, an electric chair or a jail.
You hear of a lot of young criminals, but the ones who age well and manage to retire are few and far between, because it's a life that takes its toll on you, mentally and physically.
Guns play a role in that of course, but before guns there were knives, sticks, ropes, swords.. a gun is a tool, but there's a difference to it: it can balance things out. In situations where normally the victim's chance of survivability would be very low (like in the article I posted before), the possibility to have a gun will bring things to a more potentially balance level.
Besides it's the good old "beware of dog" deterrent: if the person in front of you potentially has a concealed weapon you'll think twice before attacking her or being rude.
The big problem with anti-social behaviour in the UK is because the scum knows that people (and the police for the matter) are not ready to tackle or face such thing when it happens on a large scale, and the brainless law system often means they can get away with it..

I had a neighbour here that was arrested because he grabbed a teen that he saw scratching his car. He didn't hit him, he only grabbed his arm, but he got arrested for assault to a minor. Go figure...