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Old 07-06-2012, 03:17 AM
camber camber is offline
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I would agree but have a couple of points.

The rudder changes are extremely noticable when attempting to get enemy aircraft on sight in the turn. The main problem (as IvanK said) is that attempting to rudder the nose up and down in a steeply banked turn gives a large secondary roll response that is difficult to compensate with aileron. But another problem is that the rudder response is extremely undampened and a rudder input sufficient for any yaw will give large oscillations in both yaw and roll and you end up waggling your nose around the target.

EDIT: not that you should open fire in a side slip anyway, but there is a fair amount of oscillation present!

Setting axis sensitivity to 1.0 from 0.0 (reduces rudder response at low pedal input) does not help because the rudder is hardly doing anything at the low inputs anyway (just some "secondary" roll)

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Originally Posted by IvanK View Post
Previously any even minor rudder input resulted in almost immediate secondary effects of yaw (roll) ocurring. This was unrealistic. The Secondary effect of yaw is generally a progressive thing requiring significant rudder application (then yaw) for it to start manifesting itself. Typically in most straight wing types a smooth application of perhaps 1/3 to half rudder is required before the roll becomes noticeable. In the current Beta patch this is what I am seeing ... about 1/3rd rudder pedal deflection before I see any secondary effect. However I am not seeing anywhere near enough yaw during the rudder application. This results in the aircraft seemingly not responding yaw wise to the first 1/3rd of rudder application. The first real motion you see as the pilot is the "secondary effect" i.e the roll then yaw starts to come in.
You can really see this on three channel RC planes (which have large amounts of dihedral and no ailerons). To bank you kick the tail sideways with rudder which is clearly visible, then the aircraft tips toward the yaw.

camber

Last edited by camber; 07-06-2012 at 11:34 PM.
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