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Originally Posted by _OD_
Seriously?
I'm trying not to get too drawn it but this is quite an outrageous attack on some peoples beliefs, and the systems employed by some nations.
Everyone in the UK pays National Insurance. This is meant to provide you with a state pension, welfare if you lose your job (unless out of choice and providing you are looking for work) and access to healthcare when you need it and not if you can afford it.
What you are "espousing" is letting the poorer sections of society die because they can not afford health insurance. True you do not have to buy it but if you don't how are you meant to afford health care if you get cancer, or a life threatening disease? This is not an issue in the UK. If you want to get private health care that is up to you but EVERYONE has access to the National Health Service. How is this a bad thing?
This world is not just for the rich...I believe your own constitution states all men are created equal...just seems from your posts that some are more equal than others.
Plus...as one of the above posts said...what's this got to do with gloabl warming?
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fyi, we already have medicare and medicaid wealth transfer scheme in usa for long time. obummer care is an attempt to make us more euro style/socialized, so what I am espousing is that you don't put me in jail because I don't want to pay the lazy fat asses down the street health care because they are too fricken lazy to get a job. many "progressives" are milking the system for all it is worth, often living a glutton lifestyle. when we work in the usa, we pay into the system. its called fica taxes at the national level. those fica revenues go to social security and medicare schemes. a return of those revenues is not guaranteed to the payor. it is by definition a wealth redistribution/transfer.
sure, all men are created equal, but that doesn't imply a free ride. Also, you euros seem to view money as being rich. sure that is true, but some of us in usa view freedom as being rich and more important than money. the money follows from the freedom. it is a byproduct of your work. it should generally not be confiscated to support the deadbeat, lazy, unproductive, irresponsible. Yes, it is taxed to support the general welfare/public good as per the constitution (e.g., national defense, roads, etc.). but "guaranteed" healthcare for everyone is not part of that public good. i hate to break it to you, we aren't supposed to live forever. life isn't always fair. the dingo took the baby.
