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Old 05-28-2012, 03:40 PM
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Indeed. Not from the start.
But that leaves room that in its later design stages more was implemented into the design after further research and trial with prototypes.
The point at which this became apparent to the Germans is debatable..

But it is clear to all that at some point before the end of the war the Germans where aware of it.. Clearly based on some of the preliminary designs the Germans had on paper.. Which is preliminary with a CAPITAL P and a far Far FAR cry from prototype..

But the problem is some want to give the Germans credit for this knowledge a good ten years prior to when they obtained it.. Which only feed that notion that the Germans were special in some way

For example.. Take the STORMBIRDS quote.. They say the Germans knew about it during the 30s.. They convently leave out the details of it being 1939.. And they convently leave out how long it can take theories on paper to make their way into production. Some think this can happen faster during war, and in some cases it does, but in some cases it does not. That is to say if it aint broke don't fixed it attitude Lockheed had with the P38 receiving upgrades. Where as the Germans were desperate so I think I could see them 'giving it a go' with their fingers crossed approach.

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And as being the first swept wing jet fighter in service it was certainly a remarkable airplane and achievement.
Agreed 100%

Only some like me see it as a logical evolution and not a revolution.. As I noted before.. You will be hard pressed to see any aspects of the Me262 designs being used in post war FIGHTERS.. Sure you will see a lot of post war BOMBERS slinging engine pods under the wings.. Which makes one take pause and wonder if Hitler was not the smartest guy in the room when he wanted to make it a fast attack bomber! You know that 'other' Me262 myth that the Me262 was some how delayed by Hitler for wanting to put bomb racks on the Me262.. The truth is the Me262 was delayed due to the engines.. Because the only other way to 'spin' that is to say it took the Germans two years to figure out how to put bomb racks on the Me262! And I think we can both agree that the Germans were more than capable of doing that!!
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