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Old 05-06-2012, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Kongo-Otto View Post
The question for me is, why is the UKIP so successfull in elections for the EU-Parliament and so unsuccessfull in elections for the House of Commons.
In Germany we see the EU-Parliament as an retirement home for quite unsuccessfull, recalcitrants or older Politicians. Not important enough to send someone important, so to say.
There is a say in Germany "Hast du einen Opa schick ihn nach Europa" which means "Do you have a Grandpa send him to Europes Parliament"

So in imho it would make more sense to have a stronghold in the House of commons rather then in the EU-Blatherer Shop.
What i also don't understand is this, when there is such an resentment against Germany and or the EU, why doesn't the UK leave the EU?
Nobody is forced to stay when he feels so highly uncomfortable.
UKIP is only successful in the European parliament elections as they are the only national elections in the UK that are held under the system of proportional representation. You know that system well Kongo-Otto. It gave you Hans- Dietrich Genscher for most of the latter part of the twentieth century.

Elections to our parliament, where the real power lies, take place under the first-past-the-post system, like in the US. We tend to send our failed, unwanted and unloved politicians off to become EU commissioners.

I don't think the British people as a whole have any resentment against modern Germany or Germans. In fact I'd say we have quite a lot of respect as we're fairly aware that the EU experiment has been paid for in large part by Germany.
I'm afraid our national press is another story.
Also, our politicians have never really been honest and up front to the British people about what the EU is about. We have always been told it is merely an economic area whilst the rest of europe has accepted that it's foundations were always political as well as economic.

UKIP is the chicken of this dis-honesty coming home to roost.
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