Bongodriver said:

>>Oh and wheres my goose? <<

Well cooked...fries with that?

>>Nett effect of all this is just damaging to the game (I believe it's the intention) this couldn't have been illustrated more clearly by the recent moronic and fake 'Black Six' post, there is no denying there are people out there hell bent on causing damage to this game and that is what I want to counter.<<

Yes, of course, but why conflate that with genuine critcism? Because it's easy and fun? Because you can grandstand and do the sword-of-righteousness routine? Because you can just lump everyone in together and make out it's all rubbish?

Well, yes, you can. But one runs the risk of looking like an idiot in the process.

As intentionally for damaging the game...well, there are many replies to this, but we'll forgo the easy pot-shots such as the devs got there first etc...

If you are intent on having the last word, it helps to have a first word i.e. something to say...not just countering every time for it's own sake. Your posts, and those of Carguy, Aces, Hayward et al... need substance, not just complaining-about-the-complaining. It doesn;' go anwywhere because it can't go anywhere - especially when the underlying causes for complaint remain valid.