I had an EVO with force feedback that broke a few months back, and I replaced it with the Saitek "Avi8tor". Its a good stick, but I really, really, really miss the information the "FF" gave me...its too easy to "stall out" when doing a "split s" or a "hard break" with out the shudder info...I never know how hard to pull the stick....I have to learn to fly all over again.
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