[choctaw111]

I was using the MSFF and MSFF2. They were good sticks (and I still have them) but I switched to the CH Fighterstick and have loved it ever since. There is a rumble pad that you can put under your stick to give that FF feel, but it still will not give you that stick feel when you are near a stall...you know, when your stick starts to get all "floppy" when you loose airspeed. That is the one feature I really liked about the MSFF sticks.
The one thing I really like about the CH Fighterstick is how it fits my hand, and the many buttons it has (24). It is a good quality stick that I have been using for about 5 years, and still going strong, with no signs of wear.