[Madfish]

True. But only Pakistan was offered the J10s. As far as I know that's the only sale the Chinese authorized.

Aside from it's bugs and issues, understandable for the new development, the J10A is definately no match for the EF though. It's thrust to weight ratio alone is that bad that it can't even go vertical, heck, you're lucky if it climbs at all, with it's normal configuration and a ttwr of only 0,68. Just to compare: the EF has a ttwr of 1,18, thus can go vertical and climb fast...

Add to that the performance of the amazing DASS system the Typhoon has; ECM, ESM, MAW sytems, integration with the helmet mounted display unit etc. and you don't want to sit in a J10A even if it looks like a clone of the EF.

The J10B will be interesting to see, after all it's a raptor clone. But then again - I don't believe that it's the weapon of the future and also I don't yet believe that the chinese are that advanced when it comes to the subsystems. Anyone can build a good looking plane but that doesn't say much about it's real efficiency. I'm not saying this to discredit the chinese, on the opposite, I'm rather scared of their drone mass production capabilities, but I don't see it as a logical choice.

I still believe the EF Typhoon is the last jet with a reasonable configuration to buy or maintain, aside from some russian variants and maybe the rafale b. Considering how far advanced drone technology, autonomous and remote controlled, already is I'd not buy any other modern plane aside from transport and tactical/surveilance. The F35 also has a number of issues, like low ttwr, low speed, low weapon load, low fuel capacity, low g limits - I'd seriously consider almost any drone superior in terms of performance - the rest is just dependant on subsystem performance.