[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by RCAF_FB_Orville

*sigh*. Here we go again. You are clearly incapable of having a reasonable debate without insulting people with derogatory comments, I honestly don't know how you get away with it. I think this is* due to a lack of any cogent argument, based on facts.

I don't appreciate having aspersions cast upon my intelligence with your derogatory 'Genius' remark, nor being (inaccurately) called a 'hysterical wuss', which is laughable. Stop it.

to be honest with you, after the passive aggressive stuff you wrote me via PM, I'm surprised you even have the cheek to try and pick up conversations with me.

Let's review your intervention to the topic so far:

1) you butt in with some allegedly clever comment, which in fact shows lack of respect to others..

2).. then, when treated the way you deserve to, you moan?

Just don't bother man, I'm not interested.

This 'Genius' did however look at the facts, and found that 'Korea Town' in LA was massively looted and damaged, despite residents banding together with an arsenal of weapons. I also found that truckloads of shops were looted whether the owner was armed or not. Multiple incidents were recorded of the armed Koreans actually shooting at each other in the confusion, which can very easily happen even amongst trained soldiers not to mention civvies....So your confidence in 'Charles Bronson' is sadly misplaced. A young girl named Latasha Harlins was also killed by a Korean shop owner, who had nothing to do with the looting at all. Others were injured.

If shoot outs at the 'OK Corall' are your thing, great. I'd argue that if you live in a society were you feel it is necessary to buy an assault rifle to defend yourself, then there is something badly wrong with that society, something that the proliferation and escalation of gun ownership will not and cannot remedy.

I'm not here to change your opinion on the matter, in fact I don't care about it, you believe what you want to believe with your "I know it better" attitude.

The likelihood of my home being invaded by an armed gunman in the UK is probably comparable with being struck by lighting, twice. Extremely remote. I have no need for a gun, I am glad to live in a society were I do not need guns, I don't want to own a gun. The majority of the UK do not want more guns. In fact, they want less.

So you don't see your country is already invaded? You must be really blind.. and it doesn't need a man with a gun to break into your house, but I would like to see you talking yourself out of a scenario with two or more men armed with knives and sticks breaking in.. I'm sure the coppers will be there in no time. To collect the bits.

The fact that you are apparently not even aware of the causal link between drug abuse and crimes against property worldwide, (never mind the UK)....Speaks volumes; this is common knowledge, and empirically proven and demonstrable.

Yeah, it's all because of drugs. And the moon is made of cheese too.

What on earth does where I live/was born have to do with anything? More confused nonsense. Newcastle is not even in the top 10 (or twenty I believe) burglary 'hotspots' in the UK. Places like Nottingham, Leicester, Birmingham, inner city London are.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...hot-spots.html

'Narrow views'?! Not sure what you are on about, but nothing new there.

that's exactly my point, you only have a partial view of the complex world of crime. And it doesn't surprise me you don't understand what I talk about, you seem to be oblivious to pretty much everything else around you too. Or you know it better..

Yes, its a matter of culture. I don't want a Gun culture in the UK, or kids growing up in one, simple as that. Nor do I want to see them outlawed entirely, they have their purposes for 'jobs of work' like farming, maybe sports and that's fine. I don't however want every Tom dick and harry owning one. Nor does anyone else.

You keep on making the assumption that what you think is what everybody thinks. British citizen were never asked about it, the partial ban was applied and that's it. You're happy to be deprived of your rights overnight, good for you.

I have lived in the UK all my life, a lot longer than you.....and your views are a distinct minority. Deal with it, or find somewhere more to your taste if it makes you so unhappy.

There we go again with the passive aggressive crap.
You embody the worst part of this otherwise beautiful country.

@ Nearmiss. Sorry pal but you could not be more wrong if you tried. We'll stick with our ways, thanks a bunch.

Other countries can do their thing and that's great. We'll do ours. With the greatest of respect, I'll take my countries per capita murder rate over the US record in particular, anytime.

Finito.

*clap clap clap* fantastic.