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Old 09-30-2011, 07:43 AM
Sammi79 Sammi79 is offline
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Madfish, no-one here has suggested that safety should be ignored, you say 'listen to the moderate crowd' when its obvious that you support Davids view, and he is far from moderate. I am arguing that knee jerk reactions like imposing bans is not a sensible solution. You insult anyone arguing against your (Davids) point of view by calling them childish/naive and still you want to cling to some sort of moral high ground, though when I called you before on this point you declined to answer.

1.autopilot - would probably not help in the case of mechanical failure. Still I'd say worth a try.
2.better course layouts - not possible to achieve your desired result without banning spectators.
3.better telemetry - Yep like this. but then the Galloping Ghost did have telemetry afaik.
4.Better preparedness of emergency ground crews and nearby hospitals - how were they, in this instance, unprepared?

Dragster style parachute brakes might be an idea, to get the speed down before a possible impact, though in some cases the effect would be marginal due to the low altitude. Also, it would need some kind of automatic trigger, as well as a manual trigger, to ensure its use in case of pilot failure. So quite quickly what at first seems like a good idea becomes decidedly more difficult and complex, and is prone to failure in itself. Engineering principles do not mean safety. Any damn fool can build a bridge that can take x many tons but it takes a really skilled engineer to build one that takes x many tons and not a gram more. Ask any engineer, that is the essence of engineering.

Legislation is necessary to a point but it can go too far especially if in sudden reaction to a catastrophic accident. It should be planned and cross examined for a long time before it is made law. F1 has IMHO been almost completely destroyed by legislation. Jackie Stewart who was instrumental in the 60s and 70s for getting the drivers to stand together and demand the teams and circuit owners provide for their safety, as he was sick of seeing his friends die, has recently been quoted as saying 'I think this has gone a little too far' in regard to the current state of F1. It is artificial, uber safe and uber boring. Much like the red bull races.

Anyway, until the official report we will have to wait regarding the cause of the accident. Only if they can be certain as to the cause (which is sadly unlikely IMO) should any drastic measures be taken. Until then, by all means, get the folks to see if they can't make that elevator assembly more robust, and make sure that people who attend events like these are aware of the risks. If they like you find these risks unacceptable then don't go. simple. If people do want to accept these risks, pilots/spectators alike, who are you or anyone to tell them that they can't? They are not hurting you. I ask you to look at this statement from a family of one of the unfortunate victims :-

http://www.ktvn.com/story/15519345/a...type=printable

Last edited by Sammi79; 09-30-2011 at 07:51 AM.
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