[bongodriver]

That escalated there, it's hard to stay on topic with so many inputs.. saying that the British Empire has never been oppressive and committed crimes though is unacceptable as much as the language and behaviour or other contributors here.

At no point was this 'ever' denied......please point me to a clear bit of evidence it was 'denied'

au contraire mon ami, it's important to know who you're quoting, I try and go straight to witting evidence (hence my quote of Churchill's words re. the Dresden affair), and when not available I try and assess an opinion on facts and context, possibly without hindsights.

if you are an avid 'bookworm' it is very easy to collate snippets and quotes to build a case for an argument....biased or unbiassed....hell I bet you could take quotes from 'mein kampf' and prove Hitler loved Jews.

I don't get what you mean or refer to?

it refered to the quote I answered to....I don't get how you don't get it.....Dresden?

We fortunately weren't there, we're just trying to understand what actually happened and why certain tags were given, which although cool, are historically wrong and biased.

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seriously? What about those that couldn't be mobilised cos they were in hospitals? Do you know what it means to evacuate a city overcrowded with refugees from other cities in a few days?? Or maybe the fact that people thought it was propaganda? That's a bad, bad way of looking at things mate.

Well whichever way you look at it, British civilians were killed in German raids too, any warnings given?.....or were the warning notes taped to the noses of the V1's and V2's

I detest what Hitler did to the world too, but this shouldnt stop me from having an unbiased view of historical events. Dresden bothers me cos it was an unnecessary killing of hundreds of thousands of civilians. If you justify Dresden you justify the Blitz too.

Question is do you justify the bltz?

...I shall not comment on your conclusion, it's abhorrent.

Not 'my' conclusion...just the one history came up with

God was on everyone's side. American G.I.s were shocked to find that writings on German buckles, they were indoctrinated to think of Nazis as Godless evil killers.

Well to be fair theres some Jewish people that might share that sentiment, who bizarrely enough worship the same god.......but that whole religion thing is something I will never get.