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Originally Posted by pupo162
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I find it hard to compare the Chinese and Russian govs. and "system values" to the USA.
It seems that us westerners are complete economy-oriented, in each sphere of our life and working environments.
Even in our way of thinking... which is dangerous IMO, but which demonstrates how completely "economy led" we are,
and how our old political values have drowned down in the toilet during the past 20 years.
Whenever a country rises from a very poor background (like Russia and China did) and starts to compete on an economic
level with us, we automatically think that they're our "partners" and equal to us, while in fact this is totally far from the truth.
We automatically position these nations as "succesful" and as "economic powers" that we could trade with.... But we forget
to see better in depth all the problems that lie beneath the system, starting from the repect for human rights and for
the most important aspects that were laid down long ago in declaration of the rights of man and of the citizen in 1793.
And the respect for the "single, individual, human being".
As much as I love russian culture (I really do, my girlfriend is russian, I can speak a little and I am improving their language, I have lots of russian,ukrainian,moldovian,bielorussian friends here in Rome. And they're great friends! All of them study here in Italy, and not a single one of them wants to get back to his/her country!) I can say they have a very long way to just start to reach a level of respect of human rights as close to what we have here in EU.
See, it's easy to be amazed by how many building plans have been laid and carried out in Moscow, St.Petersburg and other important cities, not knowing the working conditions of slave-workers (coming especially by Takjikistan,Uzbekistan and other central asian countries), paid ridiculously barely survival wages, stacked 10 in a room for sleeping, without protection whatsoever from any Union etc...
And let's not try to talk about corruption.... You should be more afraid of policemen there than criminals...
Just take a look
here and
here
The problem is: "on paper" they look like modern and civilized "systems", while the reality is a little bit different.