Still going at it? You might as well give up Stern, there is nothing more persistent than a man trying to explain why he'd give up his freedom for security. There is no logical reason for it, there can be no good outcome except that of a slave with a benevolent master, so you cant expect logical reasoning to work. No matter what you say, it will be seen as a personal attack, so the only response you'll get are personal attacks after the party line has run out of steam.
I really, really love my UK friends, as I've said here before, but banging heads rarely helps. Both men just end up with a headache and opinions unchanged.
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