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Old 09-02-2011, 02:50 AM
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@Madstrike: I know your problem. Read my postings about the "Cruel Haas" battle and the Dragons (especially Blacks) in it. I can tell you so much:
The girls suck against them ofc, their damage is 100% magical and with dagger and whip that doesn't change either. But a warrior with sick atk and a "Dragon Slayer" spell on them even THAT is negated. But it requires sick gear if you want to pull that off on higher difficulties. So you need other damage dealers.
Well, you can pick from a wide range of choices:
Even if they usually suck but Knights perform excellently against Dragons. "Valor" and "Dragon Slayer" are attributes just made for those ^^ And you can even cast Dragon Slayer on them, to boot and as far as I remember, the two stack with each other.
The next option would be Demons. They also take less fire damage and the infinite retaliation is double awesome. My choice #1 against Dragons. Always. Buffed with damage enhancement spells they just plain chop down Dragon stacks and can withstand multiple stacks pummeling them. With Xeona as a wife and the resulting +1 morale that only does more service.
Other good options include Giants (can't argue against 50 base defense), Emerald Green Dragons and Bowmen (not as awesome as Skellies but with Dragon Arrows and/or Dragon Slayer they are devastating, too, especially if both are in the team ^^).

The key against Dragons, tho, is not necessarily the setup. It's the strategy. A good cheese I always use is to just barr your ranged and support behind Ice Thorns ! Make sure you don't leave a spot free. This will keep Dragons from attacking them instead of your tank(s) and you can fire away as much as you want. But be aware of Red Dragons as they will just do their breath that goes over several tiles and still damage your support/ranged. So take out those first (before the blacks).
You can find more counter-Dragon strategy in the forum if you search. There is tons of stuff. More than I can possibly sum up.

@Helios: Firstly, yes, Dragon Arrows works perfectly fine against any highlvl unit. The reason is the way it works. It negates the opponents surplus Defense that exceeds your unit's Atk. That means the lower your unit's Atk and the higher the opponents Def, the bigger the DIFFERENCE in damage numbers will be (not the bigger the max dmg will be) with or without DA. So a unit like, say, Giants, Ancient Ents or Dragons with 50+ Defense will lose the MOST defense of all. Therefore the effect is the greatest with them, resulting in the biggest damage and biggest lulz :>

Secondly, yes, the weapons work with all units. But a unit that has, say, 30-38 damage base, a +1 or +2 won't make that much of a difference as they are still balanced with a tad more. Unit's with 1-2 or 1-3 damage however become over the top brutal with them. Math :>
Thirdly: you sold the dagger and the whip ? OMG, I know a few people - especially from back when there was no savegame scanner - that would take great delight in shoving their boots up your butt for that xD

I'm sorry if I mostly just repeated what Madstrike told you in the post above mine but it's pretty much all there is to it.
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