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Originally Posted by ElAurens
Yes there is, if the software in question was not intended to be open source by it's maker, which is the case with the IL2 series.
Remember, the "mods" as you call them, are only possible because the encrypted SFS files, which were never meant to be decompiled except by Maddox Games, or their agents, were hacked open using an illegal and unsanctioned device. This is irrefutable.
The IL2 series was never intended to be user modifyable. END OF STORY.
Are you so thick headed that you cannot understand this?
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Thick headed? The bottom line is like it or not the deed is done.. get over it and move on.... because all the dialog in opposition will do nothing to change the facts... and not only that it won't even slow it down... so IMO the best bet is to first make up your mind whether or not this is for you... if it is then get it and have at it ... if it isn't then GET OVER IT and fly how you want to ... either way the guys that hacked the SFS files HAVE DONE IT... and the guys that are making mods with that will not stop and the ONLY ONES WHO CAN DO
ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT IT THAT WILL HAVE ANY REAL IMPACT is Oleg & 1C... and if they choose
for whatever reason to NOT do anything at this time then it is all a moot issue .. so all this BS back and forth agida inducing, NONSENSE.. and that is what it is if for no other reason that it does absolutely NOTHING to change ANYTHING and is just a waste of bandwidth.
Everyone needs to get with those FACTS..... and the only thing that will make any of this BS banter meaningful in one way or another is a response from Oleg & 1C .... or the lack thereof. Period.
I understand the passion that so many feel for this sim.... and I share it... it has become much, much, MUCH more than just something I "play" on my PC to me. It has changed my life... which I never thought
a simple piece of software could do.... I have made acquaintances from all over the world.. learned more about ballistics, aeronautics, history, aircraft, graphic design, web building, physics,politics,chemistry, and even
myself than I ever thought I would have 7 years ago this very day from a "game"... so when I say STFU and get over it.... MOVE ON TO THE NEXT LEVEL... I say it with all sincerity and from the heart.. and from a position of someone who cares just as much about this sim as anyone else here save those whose labor produced it.
I am not intentionally being flip or disrespectful... but
THAT is what all of you who keep this going on both sides need to do. For the CON modders... if all your posts, and rants, and quotes and legal mumbo jumbo could actually change anything it would be at the least a worthy effort.. but it cant.. it changes NOTHING...
NOTHING.... For the PRO modders... if all your defensive, smack talking brohuha bolstered your position from a
basic standpoint of the FACTS of the intitial process that gave us the means to mod in the first place did anything to change the facts.. great... but it doesn't. The truth is that Oleg never wanted, intended, or approved of the
hacking of the sim that
he and 1C developed... that's a
fact.. and you can talk about no cd files and all that BS if you want to but those are the facts....
THE FACTS folks, like it or not.........
However the biggest singular fact that both sides overlook at every turn in order to continue spout their own point of view is, I say again ...that
THE DEED IS DONE.. and no amount of arguments, justification, defense, accusation or whatever will change that.. not only that the ONLY THING that will rectify it and that will restore the previous stauts quo is direct input from Oleg and/or 1C and
that only temporarily... let's be real here.. The fact that it lasted this long is a testament
and a very outstanding one I might add to the work Of OM & 1C...
Let's face it .. people have wanted to hack this sim since it came out.... in 01..
but they couldn't.. and it took this long to bring this sim to the level of it's contemporaries,
it's lessors if you will, by making it moddable. But that is the only way that it has been brought to the level of it's "contemporaries". It is
still hands down the the ABSOLUTE BEST WWII combat sim available for commercial use.... inspite of the FACT that it is now hacked.
That is a testament to the genius of it's creators.
Nothing else but
direct input from Oleg and/or 1C will do to alleviate this issue "officially" .. and if that is NOT forthcoming, again for whatever reason ... then you all need to just shut up and move on in your chosen path, either for or against and act accordingly, but you need to stop cluttering up cyberspace with this BS back and forth dissonance that will not change. I have said from the beginning and will continue to say that we as a
flight sim community need to move beyond the current state because it is past us.... The moment to "do something" is gone. What we are doing now is like sitting around pointing fingers after the cow has left the barn... LONG after the fact... instead of either trying to round up the cows we can find or figure out how to make up the shortfall if any of milk and cream..
I know it may be anathema to do so for many in both parties but you all need to move from who did what to what when .. to how will We as a community of folks, who are so passionate about our positions in the first place
because of the sim deal with things as they are NOW... TODAY
for better or worse in this, the community of the best the ABSOLUTE BEST WWII combat Flight Simulator BAR NONE to hit the market to date. Many of you folks on both sides are so adamant about your positions and so vehement to the opposition because of the same thing... your passion for the sim. This has gone beyond trying to "understand the other guy"... What you all should be thinking about is ... where will this community be -because it wont die on the day that SoW:BoB is released- 16 months from now... and act accordingly. If you don't want this community to go the way of every other sim community that has "benifitted" from becoming moddable, either through legit or non legit means, then you all better get on the d@mn wagon and try to figure out how to deal with the fact as they are...
as they are not as they were, not as you would like them to be, but
as they are.
Those facts are that the sim had been hacked... and mods are coming out.... it is up to US what this community becomes... us and Oleg & 1C. Arguing and pointing finger will do absolutely NOTHING.
For the time being and for whatever reason Oleg & 1C aren't talking..... so what will the community do? Sure you cant "legislate" morality.. but we as a community can try to set a tone for what we as a community will or will not tolerate in online venues.