You're taking a perspective from inside the game not reality.
I've been playing for a long while, since Forgotten Battles came out. Flying Axis side exclusively.
You are 100 % right that ingame (1946) I've never even attempted to outturn a spitfire simply because it is pointless.
History tells us that it was quite an effective tactic ( Downing 6 of them that way can hardly be luck ), and there are more quotes I can dig up which state the same.
Yet you cannot use that for any FM modelling for obvious reasons, which Lixma also correctly said:
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And don't get us started on the relative skills of the pilots involved, the condition of the airframes, condition of the engines, relative energy levels during the turns etc...etc....
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My point was only that the 109 is not a bad turner, it was considered effective by experienced pilots.
I personally would prefer BnZ, far safer and more fitted for canon armed birds IMO. Good dogfights I rarely have with Spitfires, scraping them off the ground is no fun. I miss the 6K + fights with P47 and P51 in 1946.