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Originally Posted by Seadog

P/O Dutton chose to ignore the 5 min limit. I doubt he was court martialed or penalized in anyway for doing so and his engine may have been a candidate for inspection (as he combined steep dives with overboost), but I doubt he lost any sleep over that.

What? Who the hell mentioned court martials? Is English not your first language?

Originally Posted by Seadog

There is a poster who is claiming that any use of 12lb/3000rpm will result in grounding till a mandatory inspection is done, and I'm glad to see that you disagree with this.

I don't entirely agree with his stance, nor do I agree with yours that an engineer could just shrug his shoulders and say don't worry about it. ALL engines regardless of what boost was used were inspected at the very least at the end of the days flying and preferably at the end of each flight timing permitted. Using +12lbs boost was by your own admission enough to warrant an inspection at the earliest possible convenience. The earliest possible convenience would be that very evening in the worst case scenario. When doing the routine maintenance at the end of each evening the engineer consults the logbooks of all aircraft flown that day. He sees that this particular aircraft has an entry that the pilot used +12lbs boost. He knows from his orders (Straight from Dowding) that it is SOP to do a more thorough check for wear and tear. Do you now dispute this?

Originally Posted by Seadog

Again, this is exactly what I've been saying. Keep your gauges in the black and 5min+ at 12lb/3000rpm results in increased but still minimal ("low probability") risk, but it is completely ahistorical to claim that pilots did not use 12lb/3000rpm repeatedly or for more than 5 mins as the situation warranted. We know that in the real battle pilots weighed the risks and then "pulled the plug" and some were willing to keep it pulled for more than 5 mins and the game should allow this even with CEM, because that's the way things were. RAFFC went to 100 octane fuel precisely because it allowed the use of 12lb boost and this gave RAFFC a vital edge in performance when it was needed, and some even state that this was the difference between defeat and victory:

We know it was used, we also know it was used for longer than 5 minutes per flight on occassions. Everyone here actually agrees that it could be used and that there was an increased risk. Why do you keep this up, here it is again in big writing. Sorry for shouting but this point is very important.

WE ALL AGREE THAT USING +12LBS BOOST COULD BE AND WAS USED LONGER THAN 5 MINUTES BUT IT WAS NOT A RISK FREE ACTION.

Originally Posted by Seadog

Why bother with a game that goes to great lengths to accurately model aircraft performance, but then takes away the winning edge that 100 octane fuel (despite all the sweat and cost that RAFFC went to make sure that they could take advantage of it) provided during the battle?

Ah the bias starts to show. What you want is some "click here = win" button for the RAF? +12lbs boost gave a boost in performance, it was not a massive advantage that guaranteed victory. Even with +12lbs boost the difference in performance between a Spitfire, 109E and even a Hurricane were close enough that surprise, tactics and pilot skill was the determining factor in the outcome of any engagement.