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Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider
remove it from the sim.... try telling a piano player they can't have both hands and a foot going at the same time, a rally driver they can't steer/ change gear/ heel 'n' toe the brake and gas all at the same time (crikey, even the knee can come up help with the wheel on ocassion)
as most people realise, that when the hands have learned where to go, the hands can get there quite quickly... the hands can also adapt with one hand able to do two functions. ie hold the throttle and thumb the pitch with the other holding the stick on acm... so setting the AC to account for spikey controls may in reality be dumbing down the function
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All that is fine and dandy if the controls are within reach of a single hand. In many cases they were not.
It's like Athos says:
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Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos
I think this program feature is magnificent (when it will be working properly), this is the difference between HOTAS (Hands On Throttle and Stick) of modern warplanes and the period before.
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Exactly, this is what gives these warbirds much of their character.
This feature needs to be corrected, not discarded. If people want to use their macros they can fly on servers that don't use anthropomorphic control, or add delays between their macro commands to ensure they will work and be stuck waiting for them to finish before they can issue another (not good if something changes mid-combat and one needs to alter their inputs).
There's two things needed to fix this:
1) Filter out the spiking from our game controllers:
For example, give the anthropomorphic controls algorithm a bigger deadzone, maybe after measuring the amount of spiking in a controller through a tool in the options in order not to have people abusing it to sidestep the algorithm. For example, the allowable deadzone for anthropomorphic controls would be the measured jitter zone plus X% of that range either way to ensure smooth function of the algorithm, even if the actual joystick deadzone is different. This means that a small motion of the stick would still register on the control surfaces and not on the anthropomorphic control algorithm but it would be a very small one, not useful for combat but only for slight corrections during level flight or cruise.
It's not completely unrealistic either, it's like the pilot is holding the stick steady in level flight with his knees for a moment, while operating a couple of other controls with his hands
2) Make it a custom-tailored function for each aircraft. If the aircraft had the oil and water rad controls right next to each other, or the flap and trim controls side by side (like the 109), or the throttles/pitch/mixture levers are side by side (every twin engined aircraft) in order to enable the pilot to operate them with a single hand then this should be reflected in the anthropomorphic control modeling: it should be possible to use such controls simultaneously with one hand.
However, if the oil rad control is on the left console of the cockpit and the water rad control is on the right one (again like the 109), or the water rad controls in a twin are rotating switches that have to be individually squeezed between a thumb and index finger and turned (like the 110) operating both at the same time should register as two hands being used and disable any input on the stick.
This is more or less what i would do if it was my choice:
Side by side levers: Throttles on a twin-engined plane, or throttle and mix/pitch for one engine at a time. Usable with just one hand if they are situated close enough (they usually are).
Close-by push-buttons or spring loaded switches: Usable with 2-3 fingers if they are part of the same section/instrument of the cockpit, they should count as one hand again.
Any of the above types of levers or switches/buttons that are more than an average hand's size away: Using them simultaneously counts as two hands.
Rotating switches: Since they need to be grabbed/held and rotated, operating more than one at any time should count as two hands being used and disable other inputs.