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Originally Posted by Cobra8472
Seriously? Really?
Steam brings a ton of features and advantages that have nothing to do with challenges, including- but not limited to the Cloud Service, the fact that you are not dependant on your disc (IF you loose it you simply download the game through Steam), ease of patching and version compatibility, Steam infrastructure & Support, and much much more.
You don't actually have any counterpoints in your post, just a lot of "Steam doesn't need to do this for us because we could already do it ourselves.."
-which is actually a load of nonsense, seeing as some of the things you're listing are about 100x bigger nuisance than doing it via Steam. Manually patching? It's 2011 for fucks sake.
The level of ignorance in your post seriously boggles the mind.
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I think it's the level of expecting everyone to conform to your personal standards that boggles the mind. You want auto updates and a cloud service? Go ahead and use it, no problem. Just tell me why i am forced to use something that serves your needs instead of mine
Granted, fearfactor didn't provide any choice in the matter (he seemed to imply that there shouldn't even be a steam version) so i can't agree with him either.
What i want is the title to have a steam version and the exposure that brings, i just don't want it to be the only version because i prefer not to use one and i can provide no benefits to the title through word of mouth advertising (i don't have or plan to get any other steam games, don't have buddylists or join groups, etc). There should be two versions, or at least a choice during the installation. But since we're so close to release now the best we can hope for is a patch at a later date or a community work-around to provide the mission options.
It seems this board is full of people who expect to tell others how to use their software and what they should be liking, instead of focusing their energy on providing options to satisfy as many people as possible.
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Originally Posted by Erkki
This is also a problem for those with not that high connection speeds. My squad plays both Il-2 and Red Orchestra/Darkest Hour, and the updates to maps and other stuff are downloaded when you join a server. Great, except the moment I've redownloaded the 40-50mb map and possibly another 20mb of textures the round is over, and I have to do this again until theres a map with no updates for the current week. Approx 60mb of updates a week... Not that much of a problem, but if CoD will, as Oleg has said, allow limited modification, I can imagine it to become one, when servers start having custom mods of their own to maps and aircraft. As it is, I dont have the time nor will to download an Ultrapack's worth of stuff a month in small pieces before I'm let in a server. I would imagine many people to be in the same situation. 1mb in is little enough to ruin a good evening if your game happens to have some updates you hadnt had the time to download.
Steam's autoupdates that cant be stopped are another thing. It doesnt even tell about them. If you exit Steam, it runs in the background until the download is finished, or I terminate the process.  |
This is a perfect case of why manual updating can be a better choice under certain circumstances. If i have a couple of hours to spare i don't want to spend them downloading an update right friggin' now neither do i want some client updating, i want to spend them flying the sim and update when it's convenient. Like you know, set it to download the patch when i go to bed instead of wasting two perfectly good hours of gaming time.