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Originally Posted by JG52Uther
And while everyone is so over the moon with steam,lets hope we don't end up with EA games system!
From the destructoid forums,not directly linking 'cos of the swearing 
If you ever needed more evidence of how ludicrously some publishers treat PC players, you can stop your search right here. A gamer was recently punished for using "bad language" on BioWare's forums with a ban from Dragon Age II. Yep, if you screw up on a message board, EA can stop you from playing legally purchased, offline games.
The ban was for referring to EA as a "devil", which netted the user a 72-hour suspension. During that period, he was unable to play Dragon Age II because he needed his suspended account in order to activate it. BioWare's only response was to copy and paste the terms and services of its forums, basically in order to say "not our problem."
Electronic Arts, however, has since revoked the ban -- likely due to a lot of outraged gamer backlash -- and has claimed the suspension from the game was a "mistake." Apparently he was only supposed to be suspended from the forum, but got locked out of everything that requires an EA account.
Yet further proof that EA doesn't know what the **** it's doing with its stupid EA account nonsense. Still, nice to know that such clueless chimps can essentially hold your games to ransom.
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This is exactly the kind of stuff that worries me with online distribution platforms. If i have some kind of technical issue, post on their forums or raise a fuss about it, could i be held hostage in a similar manner?
In the case of CoD, does anyone know if the Steam forum account is separate from the game account?
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Originally Posted by ElAurens
zauii, you are reading something into my statement that I am not implying.
Why so defensive about Steam? It's not your country, or your family, it's a game downloading service.
Did you miss where I said that selling CoD on Steam was OK and probably a good thing?
Once again I will lay it out for you as plainly as I can...
Selling Cliffs of Dover on STEAM is a good thing for the sim. Making those of us who purchase it through other means have STEAM on our computers is not a good thing.
As I said, other developers and publishers market on Steam and also through traditional outlets, and they do not require those that buy the product from a source other than Steam to have a Steam account to play. And guess what, that makes eveyone happy.
Why should Cliffs of Dover be any different?
When my group of friends get together to play ArmA II online, some of us have the Steam version and other the non-Steam version. We play the sim, have a very good time and everyone is happy.
What is wrong with that?
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Exactly.
All we are saying is give us a choice and all the rest of you keep saying is "it's not that bad, give it a chance, it's just misconceptions and bad luck, etc etc", which totally sidesteps what the real issue is and as such doesn't constitute a valid answer.
I'll try to explain it once more:
i don't think Steam is good or bad, because i don't have an opinion about it. I want to keep it that way and not have to deal with it, because it's been proven already by official sources that it's neither a necessity nor a developer choice.
Want to sell/buy the game on Steam? It's fine by me, just leave me out of it. But guess what...you can't do it yet either!
I just don't see why some of you are so keen on supporting a situation where
nobody gets what they want, when it would be perfectly possible to have options that cater to
almost everyone. And yes, almost 20% of lost sales is not a majority but it's not trivial either.
You're right when they say they will buy it...they will evenually, 3 months later when it's going for $20. How is that any good for Oleg's team?
If anyone can answer this please go ahead. I don't want a lecture on what steam is or how it helps indy developers or how you like it, good for you if you do, i want an answer on this very simple question: isn't it better to sell both through steam and outside of it, so that everyone gets what they want and we don't have people boycotting the game or waiting until the price drops?
It's a very simple question so let's not beat around the bush any longer. If i can't get an equally simple and clear answer, i'll just chalk it up to the fact that there isn't one that both suits the "mandatory steam" viewpoint and is reasonable at the same time. Enough arguing over semantics, let's get to the meat of the matter