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Originally Posted by MikkOwl
I have a G940 which I have written extensively about in the past. It is a complete package with stick (force feedback), throttle and rudder pedals. If it did not have the reversal bug, it would be a great package. But currently, all axes have that reversal bug except the joystick X/Y and it takes a lot of fun (and precision) out of flying. Rudder is a disaster to try to use with any accuracy what so ever. The reversal bug makes the rudder behave so that, let's say you are using a bit of rudder to aim at something or keep a certain course - the moment you think "I put a little bit too much rudder, so I'll gently ease off it", it makes a BIG jump in the opposite direction rather than easing off. And when you think "oh xxxx, that's too much" and apply a bit more, it makes a jump right back. The whole airplane is violently shaking its nose to the left and right due to these large sudden inputs and you swear in frustration. It is nothing what so ever like real mechanical linkage - it is the exact opposite of it - like some force is strongly boosting the movements you do, but only when you change direction from one to the other.
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I have the old Microsoft FFB2 wich is a cheap sure thing. I'm looking for a perfect merge of all the G940 functionalities and the Warthog quality... doesn't exist i guess, as the CH products don't feel as good as they look like (and personally i would like a WW2 time dedicated product, but perfect for it so perfect for THE new Il-2 series...)
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Originally Posted by MikkOwl
The force feedback is supremely awesome and I really don't want to go back to a joystick without that.It gives actual feedback of what is going on and things just feel so much more alive.
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+ 1 !
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Originally Posted by MikkOwl
Some people who fly in reality say it doesn't really make things more realistic, but the same can be said about force feedback steering wheels (which I also have, and since I have actually raced cars I have something to compare to). Most of the feeling in reality is felt in the body, being pulled and shaken around. The steering wheel (and I guess airplane stick) is less than this. But it is there. Mainly the looser and tighter stick when going different speeds - buffeting and how it losens totally in stalls, violent shakes while on the ground or when flying with gears down on final approach (then the stick is very loose and at the same time rocking around - it feels scary!)
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But did they fly in such warbirds, and in such war conditions... Personally, all the vet books i read talk about what the dogfighters were feeling in their stick, and it often was awesome !.. Some of them died because weren't able to work on the stick at 700 or 800 km/h and the earth was growing...
What car did you race ?
I don't understand your feeling about the comparison FFB wheel/real driving : maybe you drive with modern cars that are a lot more nice to make turn, but personally i'm only interested in classic cars, and all are quite hard to drive, and my G25 with latest drivers and max FFB is really close to the reality, even if it's never perfect obviously. But it's pretty much better than without !!!
By the way, do you know "Power and Glory" ? (an improved mix of GTL and GTR2... a wonderful thing, and the 3.0v released is close !)
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Originally Posted by MikkOwl
In IL-2 it takes a bit of adjusting to get the force feedback to work properly, at the right speeds, range of stick throw and stuff like that. They tightened up the force feedback a lot (as users requested) in the firwmare upgrade in May 2010 but quite a few people didn't properly set up their FF settings and were asking how to go back to the old firmware.
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Yes, it's always the most difficult to do to get a good sim with a FFB. And we often are waiting years before the constructors give us some really good firmwares that allow us to set nicely all this stuff !
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Originally Posted by MikkOwl
If I wasn't stuck with my G940, I would today choose the Thrustmaster Warthog and buy separate pedals. Much more expensive than the G940 but the feel of it and probably quality should be much higher. The G940 has been a major headache for me and I'm still unhappy how Logitech hasn't bothered fixed the major bugs of it. All they need to do is to remove the reversal bug and it would be great fun. They might get around to it. Or they might not.
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Please, could you explain me what exactly is this problem ??? I really don't understand : how a major constructor could produce such a thing and let it with such a stupid prob ?? I don't see exactly what it is, and how could it be possible. I'm very concerned, because i tought buying this one maybe just after the CoD release..