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Originally Posted by adonys
I haven't seen any proof you're talking about. And have you seen me ever before saying this, to talk about me persisting in this?
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You obviously haven't read the thread through (either of them) and are operating under a misapprehension... you were corrected
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Originally Posted by adonys
You are right, the resolution is much better in M$'s Kinect.
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are you sure?
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Originally Posted by adonys
Simply: by estimating the costs of the hardware incorporated in that product, deducting it from the selling price to obtain the added value cost, and comparing the added value cost with that of other similar products.
Regarding the above comparison, the hardware from M$'s Kinect is MUCH more expensive than the one from NP's TrackIR, and the same for the research and software needed for those two products. With the selling price being the same, it's obvious that NP's TrackIR is MUCH overpriced.
Also, if you may find the comparison forced, we can analyze just the TrackIR itself: NP are selling the product mostly online, which means they can't pay more than 20% for the online seller. The usual profit rate for a good business is somewhere at 10%. Let's cut NP a slack and allow a 30% profit. I doubt that the hardware required for a TrackIR exceeds 10-15 euros, which would be roughly around 10% from the selling price. Do the sum, and you'll get 40% for.. what? drivers and sowftare and research? in a 5th generation product, which only evolved from hardware's point of view? The real price of TrackIR should not exceed 50-60 euro.
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Have you considered including labour costs, packaging and manufacturing overheads? and TIR is available in retail outlets as well.
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Originally Posted by adonys
Aaa.. you are serious about comparing a video card's research, hardware and software costs with that of a head-tracking device like TrackIR? Maybe if compared with Kinect.. but with TrakIR?!! You must be joking, or playing stupid, better make sure you won't remain like that after..
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that's you making a false connection there... so what of the charge for video cards? and why no cries of duopopoly?
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Originally Posted by adonys
Stopping support for "old" products is an indicator of economic greed, if that product is not hardware deprecated. Which is the case in here, as at least TrackIR's 3 hardware is fine enough (and the device itself not so old in usage-years).
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so... dropping support for AGP, gameport, and basically p/2 and floppy drives is greed?
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Originally Posted by adonys
PS: Please do not try to impose your bullying attitude you've displyed on this thread towards me, I'll have none of it. Thank you!
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don't falsely claim monopoly, when there isn't and you'll have no need for your aggressive defence when corrected
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Originally Posted by sigur_ros
Ubi/Oleg might not talk but others do, recently Miner Wars developer considering TrackIR support:
"The good thing about TrackIR is its Standardized so people will know it will work with there hardware with out any tweaking. Also the product is very sound and high quality, you may not like TrackIR for w/e reason but it is an industry standard and most likely will be going with it, we may support others in the future only time will tell." http://www.minerwars.com/ForumTopic.aspx?id=487
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give it another go, son (read down a few posts)