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Originally Posted by fruitbat
To me the only thing that feels off and way off at that, is the position of the aerilon trim tabs. it always wants to roll, but the opposite way to the torque. At full power it almost reaches the position of not rolling due to the torque, but at any sort of cruise settings the roll is amplified, due to the reduced torque to cancel it out.
still easy to fight in, just much harder to do formation in.
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Bingo. The elevator trim being needing much more positive input for keeping the nose level is based on credible sources. I do wonder about the aileron neutral trim value tho.
Real spit pilots used to have their ailerons manually trimmed by their 'chiefy' - in the earlier spits with fabric ailerons a piece of cord was doped onto the trailing edge of the aileron on the wing that was dropping too much, thereby causing that aileron to droop slightly and thus lift the wing. How much depended on the length (and therefore weight) of the cord. A system of trial and error was used to get the balance about right.
With the metal ailerons, this was considered a bit old fashioned, and instead the 'chiefy' would give the offending aileron a few hearty wallops with a hide-faced hammer to bend it. If that didn't work, they'd swap round ailerons till they found a pair that gave the pilot the best compromise in the speed range he was happiest. - paraphrasing Tom Neil,
Spitfire: From The Cockpit ISBN 0-7110-1918-5
Now, to my taste, the 4.09 had this about right. The spits level cruise about 220mph - 250 mph and that's where i'd want my aileron neutral; below the torque is stonger and you get left wing drop; above and the airflow effect overcomes the torque and you get right wing drop.
At the moment in 4.10 it seems to be down below even the 180mph mark and that means you get substantial *right* wing drop throughout the combat range and even on a shallow climb out - which feels wrong, with the addition that this characteristic effects no other aircraft in game; no other aircraft are neutrally trimmed this way in game, and in all my years of researching spitfire flight behavior I have never seen 'pronounced right-wing drop across all marks across majority of speed range' written anywhere.
If only Il-2 had a 'chiefy'; I'd have him bashing my Spits ailerons!