[moilami]

Ok for the sake of Socrates.

Lets start with what my grandfather said, a soldier in both Winter War and Continuation war. I was a kid during '80s and he told me a war story to which I replied "I would had never done it", eyes blinking innocently. My grandfather was a very good man, maybe the best man I know, and he never showed signs of frown or anger at me except two times. This time he was frowny and serious even and said "none who were not there can never understand". Is it a cliche?

No. It is a simple truth. Or do you imagine you can know something after reading books, watching documents and movies? Pardon me, gentlemen, when I say it is very naive to begin to judge common people and their actions in those mad times. You have exactly as much clue how life was in those sick times as you have clue about how sex with a woman is if you haven't ever experienced it. That is you have some clue and can say "oh WW2, sick nazies" without ever being there, as you can say "oh sex is wonderful" without ever even experiencing it. So are you wrong? No, you are right in both cases. But still I can say you don't understand how it is/was because you never experienced it. You have only been educated to imagine how it is/was.

Long story? No, the questions posed to start this thread are not trivial ones. They are about morals/ethics, which is very complex question. I think maybe 99% of you don't even understand the basics of those well enough to discuss anything as complex as WW2 ethics/morals. And no offence meant. And even if you knew, you would not be able to discuss anything good because you would still miss the actual first hand understanding how things was. Like you can't discuss sex good if you haven't ever experienced anything else than solo masturbation.

Conclusions: All this doesn't mean you are stupids and should stop discussing things you don't understand. It means keep discussing and try to understand as much as you can and never let it happen again. That is what you people can do. If you want.


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Edit: See? My grandfather knew I would had done it, whatever it was, had I been there. Exactly in the same way you would had done all the same things what common people did in those sick times. If you were English, you would had done what English men did. If you were German, you would had done what German men did. If you were Russian, you would had done what Russian men did. Talk about ethics. Or jump back to conclusions.