I have Neatness Level 1 and Alchemy Level 3 since about Level 16-18 Hero, and my crystals number is nil. And I have only Order Magic maxed. The problem with Neatness is I try to destroy only cheapest items in the first half (or even two thirds) of game, because I don't know which sets I'll get. Of course, this is that way only because I have to have every spell encountered in my spellbook, but on the other hand I level up only spells I use. And I use lots of spells.
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