We'll see about gran turismo. I am a huge fan, or I should say was. I got hooked on 3 and couldn't wait for 4. What a disappointment. It was 3, just bigger. A LOT bigger. 24 hr races? BS. Over 500 cars? Mind boggling. I downloaded the rescent time trial and played it for about an hour. BORRRRRING!!!!!! It was the same all over again.

Huge games are usually a groundbreaking experience. I have a feeling 5 will not be one of those. The newest thing it will bring will be online play. I bet you a dollar it will be bumper car city. More of a derby than a race. A bunch of bitching adults versus spoiled, foulmouthed teenagers.

The hype may very well outdo the real thing. We'll wait and see. But I'm not planning on buying it.

As for BOP, I play with basically the same guys during the day (Europeans) and at night (Americans). I've been wondering myself that if it weren't for a small contigent of players, if the game would be active online at all. Sim by the way.