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Raw Kryptonite 09-20-2009 07:17 AM

Arado 234, B-17, P-47 in Strike
 
What do you think about these?

Unlocked the Arado today and was anxious to give it a shot in Strike. Gotta say, it does very well in a balanced room. However, a jet bomber with no guns draws jet fighters like a supermagnet the next round and gets shut down. LOL
Otherwise, it's pretty dominant. One of those that might ""keep the game from being as fun" kind of dominant. 2nd largest bombs as well. It's fun to fly though, this guy is FAST. I got to 490 mph level flight before running out of map.
However, it is part of the game. The B-17 and P-47 are also part of the game. I figure I'll keep it parked except for rounds where the bigger guns are brought in. I'm fine bombing with the HE-111 and A-20 until I get the B-17, but people should know you unlock this thing in the single missions. Play through Battle of the Bulge's missions and you've got it. Go into a room with a B-17, you need to have this thing ready to go. Even an HE-111 has a very hard time competing with the B-17 loadout.If I go in with an HE-111 and a B-17 shows up, or I'm the one bomber vs 2+ on the other side...yeah, I plan to bring it in.

I think it would be good for the B-17 to be available to everyone, but maybe that in addition to limiting the years planes are available from, we should have a simple "Jets on/off" toggle and a dlc on/off toggle.
Ideally, give us all the B-17 and P-47 right away, it's not easy building to 50 wins in Strike with the few rooms out there, and most going for 20 minutes.


Thoughts about using these 3 planes?

Ancient Seraph 09-20-2009 11:05 AM

I hate jets in general, but especially the Agado in Strike, since it's actually useful. If you play with normal people, that enjoy piston engines more than jets, you'll outrun everybody, so there's no stopping you. Basically cheating. I agree with the jets on/off button, or just a kick option for the host. As for the B17.. it should be easier to unlock, 'cause it's pretty much overpowered.... but I sure love flying it :D

NephilimUK 09-20-2009 11:10 AM

The B-17 (I unlocked mine last night :grin:) is well worth going for - hard work, maybe, but a real 'prize' for your labours.

It is a smidgeon overwhelming - but this is countered by the appeal of shooting one down (attracts enemy fighters like wasps to an ice cream cone).

It also has a slower release rate on its payload, forcing you to adapt new techniques.

Wissam24 09-20-2009 11:46 AM

Yeah what's with the slow bomb drops?

MorgothNL 09-20-2009 12:45 PM

I would like to know as well what people think of the P-47. I dont have the pre-order code...so I cant get it. I wonder if they did a better job on the P-47's flight model... than on the P-51 flight model.

The P-47 is supposed to fly worse than the P-47 (though its very wel armoured), but in this game, I cant immmmmagine something flying worse than the P-51.

So, how does it fly?

Riceball 09-20-2009 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorgothNL (Post 103034)
I would like to know as well what people think of the P-47. I dont have the pre-order code...so I cant get it. I wonder if they did a better job on the P-47's flight model... than on the P-51 flight model.

The P-47 is supposed to fly worse than the P-47 (though its very wel armoured), but in this game, I cant immmmmagine something flying worse than the P-51.

So, how does it fly?

I just played a round against a pretty good player using the P-47, and he was 0 for 6.

And Raw, what do you mean by, "people should know you unlock this thing in the single missions"? I assume you mean the HE-111? And not the B-17.

MorgothNL 09-20-2009 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riceball (Post 103036)
I just played a round against a pretty good player using the P-47, and he was 0 for 6.

srry...dont get this ?:P you beat him 0 to 6? if so..with wich plane?

irrelevant 09-20-2009 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riceball (Post 103036)
And Raw, what do you mean by, "people should know you unlock this thing in the single missions"? I assume you mean the HE-111? And not the B-17.

I think he was referring to the Arado 234

Riceball 09-20-2009 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorgothNL (Post 103039)
srry...dont get this ?:P you beat him 0 to 6? if so..with witch plane?

I did'nt get the chance to ingage him.

The US planes need a serious upgrade.

FOZ_1983 09-20-2009 01:34 PM

The US single engined planes in IL2 do feel slightly handicapped. Why...i've no idea!! But with a bit of luck the patch will address known issues and then everyone can start flying the P51 online....


Now

the Arado carries three 500lb bombs, does enough damage to a target and its fast, but its drawback is its speed!! its that fats that once you have dropped your bombs, you need about 25 miles to be able to turn back onto your target for another pass. The best tactic i could find was to line up a few different targets. Hit the first, then without having to make a huge turn, just go for the next which was lined up nicely for me.

Compared to the B17.... id take the B17 all day long!!!

the arado only carries the three 500lb bombs, but its fast.
the B17 carries eight bombs (diff weight classes can be unlocked) and does tremendous damage!! what it lacks in speed in makes up for with brute force.


when i play strike i play with a friend who also has the B17. between the two of us we can cause considerabel damage to enemy tickets.

Its all down to personnal choice in the end. Each to their own :)


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