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recoilfx 06-04-2011 01:49 PM

Cockpit Glass shading
 
Anyone think that the shading for the glass is too heavy? With the cockpit closed, the whole picture is grey and muted.

I'd imagine in real life, the sunlight would be so much brighter that the lowered brightness wouldn't be apparent after eyes adjusts to it.

Since monitors can not possibly produce the same kind of brightness and dynamic range, maybe we shouldsimulate how eyes adjust to the light (close cockpit, lowered brightness, up the brightness as time goes).

I have no real life pilot experience so what do you all think?

Insuber 06-04-2011 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recoilfx (Post 293361)
Anyone think that the shading for the glass is too heavy? With the cockpit closed, the whole picture is grey and muted.

I'd imagine in real life, the sunlight would be so much brighter that the lowered brightness wouldn't be apparent after eyes adjusts to it.

Since monitors can not possibly produce the same kind of brightness and dynamic range, maybe we shouldsimulate how eyes adjust to the light (close cockpit, lowered brightness, up the brightness as time goes).

I have no real life pilot experience so what do you all think?

I agree. The plexiglass (PMMA) is normally very transparent. It is indeed more transparent than glass. In the game the shading is overdone.

Cheers,
Insuber

Insuber 06-04-2011 06:33 PM

The armor glass in front of the Spit is too dark too.

Catseye 06-05-2011 12:07 AM

Agreed, it is overdone.
Since we are looking at a computer screen, we need all the help we can to see objects and I really think that to simulate looking through real plexiglass this way is very detrimental to enjoyment of the sim. I've flown a bit and there is no way the cockpit glass reduces light in the way the sim does.

Also, way too much in the reflector gunsight.

ATAG_Dutch 06-05-2011 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recoilfx (Post 293361)
Anyone think that the shading for the glass is too heavy? With the cockpit closed, the whole picture is grey and muted.

I'd imagine in real life, the sunlight would be so much brighter that the lowered brightness wouldn't be apparent after eyes adjusts to it.

Since monitors can not possibly produce the same kind of brightness and dynamic range, maybe we shouldsimulate how eyes adjust to the light (close cockpit, lowered brightness, up the brightness as time goes).

I have no real life pilot experience so what do you all think?

I think it's dead good.

In spite of my current level of inebriation, the detail on the edge of the perspex window on the port side of the spit canopy never fails to amaze me.
The edges of the cut perspex looks like, well, cut perspex.

I also always fly with the canopy open, because the view is so much better.

I'm also convinced that it must've been like this in real life.

However, there's this girl at work right, who in this recent hot weather , has taken to adjusting her bra in front of me.................

louisv 06-05-2011 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 293367)
I agree. The plexiglass (PMMA) is normally very transparent. It is indeed more transparent than glass. In the game the shading is overdone.

Cheers,
Insuber

I sat in a CF-100 cockpit once and I was shocked at the really bad visibility due mostly to scratches and the thickness also surprised me. There was a greenish tint to the material. This was a decommissioned 50's Canadian fighter.

Theshark888 06-05-2011 05:08 AM

Remember that plexi degenerates over time. We have run into these types of mistakes before with 1C. Where they look at a pieced-together 70 year old aircraft in a museum and copy it exactly and try to tell us that this is the way it was back then:rolleyes:

julien673 06-05-2011 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch_851 (Post 293550)

However, there's this girl at work right, who in this recent hot weather , has taken to adjusting her bra in front of me.................

So how she was ? ;)

Insuber 06-05-2011 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louisv (Post 293566)
I sat in a CF-100 cockpit once and I was shocked at the really bad visibility due mostly to scratches and the thickness also surprised me. There was a greenish tint to the material. This was a decommissioned 50's Canadian fighter.

Old Perspex degenerates and takes a yellowish tint, namely when exposed to wheater and sunlight.
Fresh Perspex is very transparent and clearer than crystal. The interesting property of Perspex is that it stays clear when increasing the thickness. That's why it is widely used in large aquariums.
So ... The light fading is overdone! Luthier needs to revise this also.

Cheers,
Insuber

Seeker 06-05-2011 09:07 AM

I'd say it's about right, although a couple of times the "pink vision" wounded condition has rolled back when I've opened the canopy....

None of you ride bikes, wear crash helmets? The difference between canopy closed/open is about the same as visor up/down .


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