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Petrosky 06-03-2011 11:40 AM

HypperLobby&Mods
 
Hello,
I have been wondering if the use of H L without Steam would allow the moders to use there mods without having the worries of the ban system that is in place through steam.

As the use of unchecked mods will bring this sim to the state of IL2 very poor numbers online and little chance of finding servers without the use of said mods.

I know this is a big deal to the modders as they feel they saved IL2 1946 but the numbers
just show thats not so. Pre mod early 2008 always had between 9-14 hundred onliners on
weekends down to current 3-4 hunded onliners mostly using the must have mod servers.

I for one will not buy this sim if moders are allowed to run amuck again.

Petrosky:

TomcatViP 06-03-2011 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petrosky (Post 292795)
Hello,
I have been wondering if the use of H L without Steam would allow the moders to use there mods without having the worries of the ban system that is in place through steam.

As the use of unchecked mods will bring this sim to the state of IL2 very poor numbers online and little chance of finding servers without the use of said mods.

I know this is a big deal to the modders as they feel they saved IL2 1946 but the numbers
just show thats not so. Pre mod early 2008 always had between 9-14 hundred onliners on
weekends down to current 3-4 hunded onliners mostly using the must have mod servers.

I for one will not buy this sim if moders are allowed to run amuck again.

Petrosky:

+1

BH_woodstock 06-03-2011 04:32 PM

i think the mod situation is a give and take.Some like them and some dont.i agree with the fact that there were more people flying when we were all using same version (NO mods) like in the Pacific fighter days. but i dont know or can prove if they have declined because of mods. I think it declined because the game got old.
As for the mods ruining the game? i dont think so because "some" mods have been approved and are being used by the "TD" crew who bring us the patches from what i understand.
but..i do know that Cliffs of Dover is open to mods from what i have read in forums.

Ataros 06-03-2011 07:15 PM

According to Oleg iirc the plan was to have officially approved mods (that can not be used for cheating) compatible with Steam VAC and not official mods that can be potentially exploited by cheaters that you can use on your own risk. I think we will be there one day.

Oleg's concern was that CFS2 online was ruined by uncontrolled moding. Thus it will be controlled.

von Pilsner 06-03-2011 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petrosky (Post 292795)
I have been wondering if the use of H L without Steam would allow the moders to use there mods without having the worries of the ban system that is in place through steam.

I don't know about hyperlobby support, but in the Steam/Valve/VAC games I play if you use the switch '-insecure' it disables VAC. Server and client have to be same, insecure client can not connect to VAC server, etc...

I suspect the approving of mods by the dev team won't really happen terribly fast (even when SDK is released) as I really don't see the dev team having a ton of time/manpower to approve/deny/check all mods, hopefully I am wrong.

JG52Uther 06-04-2011 09:02 PM

I would pick hyperlobby any day of the week.Being tied to steam is killing CoD online.

335th_GRAthos 06-04-2011 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 293491)
I would pick hyperlobby any day of the week.Being tied to steam is killing CoD online.

+1

would not mind having both but, HL is definitively the one to be...

JZG_Con 06-08-2011 06:13 PM

i love hypperlobby and its 1946-mods..yes i was there in the days of 800-900 at weekends . VOW ..ect...but like already said the game got old , for me the mods have kept.. il-2 .. alive and kicking ..some of the maps and a/c are awesome ..great skins and flying online with 30+ enemy a/c is a thrill ..and proper missions to follow to win the online game ..can't beat it ...after all that s why we are all here ..to compete

pupo162 06-08-2011 10:00 PM

give ip connect or HL or whatever... jsut get rid of steam... please

TomcatViP 06-10-2011 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by von Pilsner (Post 293084)
I don't know about hyperlobby support, but in the Steam/Valve/VAC games I play if you use the switch '-insecure' it disables VAC. Server and client have to be same, insecure client can not connect to VAC server, etc...

I suspect the approving of mods by the dev team won't really happen terribly fast (even when SDK is released) as I really don't see the dev team having a ton of time/manpower to approve/deny/check all mods, hopefully I am wrong.

I strongly hope that devs won't EVER give unlimited approval to modder.

It's time for those guys to stop hijacking ppl works and customer money. The free soft comm still wait for a valuable freeware Mil sim. They hve plenty to do in this direction if they really want to help.

If a particular mod is allowed on CoD it might be with full responsibility of 1c not only for the quality of its contain ( no one can't say that CoD user are not comprehensive with soft glitch and patient) but for being in line with players expectation as it was advertized on release.

I like HL but it was an unsecured mess.

I hate hving to run steam on my computer with this stupid marketing soft running in bckgrnd.... but it provide some security against cheater and it's SAFE !

~S!


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