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Mikmak 05-23-2011 11:09 PM

night darkness
 
Hi,

With the version 1.01.14588, I would like to know if the night rendering has been modified or not ?
It's seems to be less dark than before the patch...

before the patch 1.01.14588 :

http://mikmak08.free.fr/forum_OBT/fu...326_195101.jpg

after the patch 1.01.14588:

http://mikmak08.free.fr/forum_OBT/night_14588.jpg

Formula88 05-24-2011 01:05 AM

Yeah I noticed this too, looks really bad. I noticed that there was a full moon out when the bright landscape and cockpit showed up though I dont know if this has anything to do with it. No matter, even with a full moon up it is still far too bright at night now.

Jatta Raso 05-24-2011 01:20 AM

s**t i only flew nighttime couple days ago and saw like the second SC, never even knew that it was like the first (as it's more supposed to be i think)

1C add it to the "put it back as it was" please (as you did when the water splashes had disappeared)

louisv 05-24-2011 02:26 AM

When your eyes are accustomed to low light, a full moon can be very bright, and it looks like a full moon is lighting the cockpit...I'm not saying it can't be made better, but to me it looks like a full moon...

speculum jockey 05-24-2011 04:20 AM

The first one looks like a pilot who just previously looked into a flashlight during a moonless night. The second one looks like a pilot who's eyes have adjusted to the darkness during a night when the moon is visible. Please post external views to show the outside of the plane and the state of the moon and sky, or these screen-caps have little weight as to whether or not it's correctly rendering the appropriate lighting.

louisv 05-24-2011 04:39 AM

+1

DB605 05-24-2011 08:45 AM

Seems ok to me. Few shots:

Moon behind:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4...5-24_00001.jpg

again:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4...5-24_00003.jpg

moon in front:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4...5-24_00002.jpg

and same from outside:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4...5-24_00005.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4...5-24_00004.jpg

DB605 05-24-2011 08:48 AM

Moon at right side:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4...5-24_00007.jpg

and some weird UFO:s :-P

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4...5-24_00009.jpg

ARM505 05-24-2011 09:41 AM

Funny how a seemingly easily solved point always ends up being debated on these forums.

I have flown many hours at night with varying degrees of moonlight in light aircraft and airliners (although not much ambient light gets into them due to the pretty small windscreens re cockpit lighting) and the current night light seems far too bright, moonlight or not. Night is dark. This sounds blindingly (pardon the pun) obvious, but sims like DCS A10 get it right, ie on a moonless night you can't see a thing if there aren't lights on the ground. It's like flying in an inkwell. I flew with a full moon just the other night, and while it does light up things very well, it doesn't give perfect vision, although you could fly without lights very easily (you'd have to be pretty lucky to land however IMHO). Still, one shouldn't be able to see individual trees many kilometers away, as is now the case as demonstrated by these shots, or the instrument panel with perfect clarity. When practicing electrical failure in light aircraft, moonlight was not sufficient to see all instruments with any degree of accuracy, although a Cherokee doesn't have a transparent roof! Also, the colour is totally wrong - moonlight tends to wash out all colours, ending up with a kind of black and white effect. It's a totally artificial look at present - pre patch gets my vote, for what it's worth.

Jatta Raso 05-24-2011 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARM505 (Post 288076)
Funny how a seemingly easily solved point always ends up being debated on these forums.

I have flown many hours at night with varying degrees of moonlight in light aircraft and airliners (although not much ambient light gets into them due to the pretty small windscreens re cockpit lighting) and the current night light seems far too bright, moonlight or not. Night is dark. This sounds blindingly (pardon the pun) obvious, but sims like DCS A10 get it right, ie on a moonless night you can't see a thing if there aren't lights on the ground. It's like flying in an inkwell. I flew with a full moon just the other night, and while it does light up things very well, it doesn't give perfect vision, although you could fly without lights very easily (you'd have to be pretty lucky to land however IMHO). Still, one shouldn't be able to see individual trees many kilometers away, as is now the case as demonstrated by these shots, or the instrument panel with perfect clarity. When practicing electrical failure in light aircraft, moonlight was not sufficient to see all instruments with any degree of accuracy, although a Cherokee doesn't have a transparent roof! Also, the colour is totally wrong - moonlight tends to wash out all colours, ending up with a kind of black and white effect. It's a totally artificial look at present - pre patch gets my vote, for what it's worth.

totally agree, where i live sometimes you can see far out in the horizon at 3-4am by mid august with full moon with virtually any light (in fact light just makes you see less in those warm summer nights;)) but you see everything in shades of black and cyan-white, without the exaggerated brightness we have right now... considering that the summer 1940 in England had unusually southern-like weather, i think the team tried to make a step in the right direction, both in terms of simulation and gameplay (what can you shoot in pitch black), but they overdone it quite a bit... i expect they'll continue to work on it


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