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ga_332 04-17-2011 03:41 PM

Help on flying the 109
 
1. Looks like i blow the engine each time, got oil on front just in 30 sec
2. 109 have only trim for elevator not Ailron?
3. Is magneto auto on 109?
4. Whats the diffrent on 109 E3/B
5. Radiator is auto?
6. Mixure only full og min 2 steps?
7. Hav ethe 109 WEP? Or emergency power on the engine?
8. Prop pitch is auto?

And how would you 109 pilots fly the 109 on with the spit in COD ;)

6S.Manu 04-17-2011 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ga_332 (Post 266040)
1. Looks like i blow the engine each time, got oil on front just in 30 sec

Watch out for the temperatures. Do not go over 2500rpm.
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Originally Posted by ga_332 (Post 266040)
2. 109 have only trim for elevator not Ailron?

Yes, only elevator.
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Originally Posted by ga_332 (Post 266040)
3. Is magneto auto on 109?

No, put it manually at 1+2.
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Originally Posted by ga_332 (Post 266040)
4. Whats the diffrent on 109 E3/B

It has the rack to carry bombs
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Originally Posted by ga_332 (Post 266040)
5. Radiator is auto?

No, 2 states: closed / opened
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Originally Posted by ga_332 (Post 266040)
6. Mixure only full og min 2 steps?

It should be auto iirc... but it's bugged
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Originally Posted by ga_332 (Post 266040)
7. Hav ethe 109 WEP? Or emergency power on the engine?

press W and look at the ata indicator. WEP is for 1 min.
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Originally Posted by ga_332 (Post 266040)
8. Prop pitch is auto?

No! you have to adjust it at every speed variation: keep full throttle and use the PP to keep the RPM constant.

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Originally Posted by ga_332 (Post 266040)
And how would you 109 pilots fly the 109 on with the spit in COD ;)

It's a long story... :-)

robtek 04-17-2011 05:26 PM

The radiator is not only two positions! Push the "open rad" key and watch the crank on the right side of the cockpit, 3 and a quarter turns from closed to open.
Further is there a indicator pin on the right wing, though in reality it worked just the other way, it works -> full out -> rad open.

ga_332 04-17-2011 07:23 PM

Thx alot for taking the time "6S.Manu" :grin: and to you robtek ;)

Winger 04-18-2011 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ga_332 (Post 266040)
1. Looks like i blow the engine each time, got oil on front just in 30 sec
2. 109 have only trim for elevator not Ailron?
3. Is magneto auto on 109?
4. Whats the diffrent on 109 E3/B
5. Radiator is auto?
6. Mixure only full og min 2 steps?
7. Hav ethe 109 WEP? Or emergency power on the engine?
8. Prop pitch is auto?

And how would you 109 pilots fly the 109 on with the spit in COD ;)

Radiator is neither auto nor does it only have "on" and "off". Its analog. Rotate the crank to open it. To see how much its opened look out the window to the right theres a small pin on the wing wich is fully extended when radiator is fully open.
The rest my preposter said nails it.

Winger

ga_332 04-18-2011 06:35 PM

Thx WInger, but when im in cockpit and try open, close Radiator the handel in the cockpit do not move? Do I jave to be airborn to make it work?

And when hiting WEP it enable it self but I cant turn it off?, dos it just turns its self off after 1 min? or ..............

ga_332 04-19-2011 05:53 PM

Some question

1. Cant open/close the Radiator in 109? is it a bug?
2. When Wep is turn on you cant turn it off? you have to wait 1 minut for it to auto tirns off?
3. When flying for a while the 109 start to shake, when I trottel down to almoust 0 trottel it stops, but when I trottel up again it starts to shake again, both in low and high alt have i broken the engine? The Temp looks fine and no oil :D
4. Should magneto always stay on 1+2 ?

Viper2000 04-19-2011 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cheesehawk (Post 268223)
I'm not sure why there's 2 settings, I'm sure in RL there must be times you'd want only 1 plug firing, but probably not modeled in the game

It's so that you can test that both magnetos are working properly before takeoff. The whole point of the system is that the engine will keep running on one mag, so you wouldn't know that one mag was broken unless you tested it.

Given that the "mechanical weathering" allows for random failures, it might be worth doing preflight checks in CoD, though I'm not sure quite how you go about "explaining" to the game engine that you refused to fly the mission because the aeroplane was U/S...

ga_332 04-19-2011 07:43 PM

Thx cheesehawk,

Looks like I had not turn on realisme on engine heat so that why the radiator on both oil and water did not work :D But it dos now ;)

What would be the Normal settings for radiators on oil and water be? Middel settings ;) or best temp............ and what is the dissedvantage if they are to cold.......

Still looking at the shakes......maybee as you said head shake i try turn that off.....ok testet it turn off head shake totaly gone? is this a bug?

Btw what RPM should you not overdue under 2500 or 3000?

Viper2000 04-19-2011 08:08 PM

2500 rpm max for one minute. 2400 rpm for 5 minutes, or 2300 rpm for 30 minutes.

If the oil gets too cold then the oil pressure will get too high & you'll break something. If the coolant temperature is too low then opening up to high power would probably cause thermal shock.

The reality is that once the aeroplane is flying you're quite unlikely to overcool it unless you're descending at idle power or something.

You obviously want to keep the radiators as close to closed as possible to reduce drag, whilst keeping temperatures within limits.

I don't know what the actual limits for the DB601 were off the top of my head, but generally coolant <120º and oil <90º is a good guess for a WWII piston engine.


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