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lothar29 04-11-2011 02:23 AM

Let us give thanks
 
Gentlemen, it is high time that we thank the team of OLEG and Luthier efforts so this Simulator this progress, they have developed a simulator that will be the reference, in fact even and everything with their problems is already beginning to be the reference, how many of you expect to see images like which have found in this Simulator?
I even with problems, the first day to tune everything to fly with calm enjoyment of my first flight as if a pilot of WWII outside at that time, we need to thank them, they need to hear already kind of our part words, in few forums on few sites, said and still say bad of this simulated things? in many friends! even I, in turn me angry, but it is not wise to the correct?, is not the art to case a different thing for each person? because for them, for us, this is art, art mixed with one machine created time by OLEG and his team! myself, personal mind even that the I do not know me or I will never know! in the if I know him, the want to enjoy their passion, their passion are the aircraft in the same way that it is for us, because we always have to complain about everything? demos them time, and you desolation as this Simulator will be the more big that nobody never open seen...


I am fond of the simulation des for many years! My first Simulator was Microprose, the B - 17 Flying fortress, then started to fly with the WWII fighter janes, and then, at last! I discovered a simulator that I change my way of seeing the world, made me better know my fondness for the aircraft, this Simulator is that many of us even to this day fly, IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 and both expansions, truth that those who you start des on the first day, also had problems? be managed? that if, because that is what happened with Cliffs of Dover, because Oleg, not leave their fans without your and our hobby!

Viking 04-11-2011 03:06 AM

Amen!

Viking

Avala 04-11-2011 03:45 AM

This is actually a simulation, not simulator. I also say "Thanks", but the fact and reality is that this is not finished product, and as such, we the end users shouldn't do the optimizations ourselves with already paid "finished" product.

In any case, saying "thanks" for something that you have paid, and what doesn't do the job for which you have paid it, is pure nonsense.

Imagine that you have bought car and paid a full price, but you have to mount engine in it by yourself.

Sane attitude would be "OK, you didn't get the time to finish it, I understand that, but I gave you the money, so hurry, and give me my finished and polished product"

nullack 04-11-2011 03:55 AM

Yeah well I aint a blinded fanboy

Anyone who releases a major international game with these sorts of bugs in it, does so in disrespect to their organisation and their customers

Come on, broken SLI, broken multicore threading, bunch of performance related problems....Nup, I'm not saying thanks at all it's way beyond a few functional game bugs to be patched, its well into the red zone of more substandard code released onto paying customers who are sick and tired of this crap being pulled in the gaming industry

carguy_ 04-11-2011 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Avala (Post 259714)
This is actually a simulation, not simulator. I also say "Thanks", but
Imagine that you have bought car and paid a full price, but you have to mount engine in it by yourself.

I gotta say, that car analogy a lot of you users seem to bring up is by far the stupidest I`ve heard in a while. If you can`t think up a better one I suggest you take the game back right now because it is too hard for your weak minds to comprehend any of it.

Fuchs 04-11-2011 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avala (Post 259714)
This is actually a simulation, not simulator. I also say "Thanks", but the fact and reality is that this is not finished product, and as such, we the end users shouldn't do the optimizations ourselves with already paid "finished" product.

In any case, saying "thanks" for something that you have paid, and what doesn't do the job for which you have paid it, is pure nonsense.

Imagine that you have bought car and paid a full price, but you have to mount engine in it by yourself.

Sane attitude would be "OK, you didn't get the time to finish it, I understand that, but I gave you the money, so hurry, and give me my finished and polished product"

+1

thanks to sell me an unfinished, unplayable simulator like as an finished product...

Scarecrow 04-11-2011 06:33 AM

Fanboy here! IL2 FB and expansions outlived two operating systems and every other game I ever bought. I hope the release will provide the devs with enough funds to continue making first class sims. I have faith that if the nay sayers don't crush this project we'll see active IL2 servers well into the next decade of this century.:grin:

Raggz 04-11-2011 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carguy_ (Post 259766)
I gotta say, that car analogy a lot of you users seem to bring up is by far the stupidest I`ve heard in a while. If you can`t think up a better one I suggest you take the game back right now because it is too hard for your weak minds to comprehend any of it.

+1... nuff said!!!

Triggaaar 04-11-2011 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avala (Post 259714)
the fact and reality is that this is not finished product, and as such, we the end users shouldn't do the optimizations ourselves with already paid "finished" product.

When you're at the cutting edge of a simulator like this things are not so easy.

Quote:

In any case, saying "thanks" for something that you have paid, and what doesn't do the job for which you have paid it, is pure nonsense.

Imagine that you have bought car and paid a full price, but you have to mount engine in it by yourself.
If there was a new revolutionairy car that was better than anything else ever made (but the same price), I'd have no problem having to put the engine in. And likewise, if this game was the same as every other flight sim on the market I wouldn't bother with it if it wasn't all running smoothly. But it isn't. There are no other flight sims available today with the potential of this one (and it's not only potential, it runs pretty well for me now).

ATAG_Dutch 04-11-2011 08:41 AM

I agree with the OP, (I think).

Take a look at the screenshots. I never thought it would be possible to have this level of detail and realism (sky, sea, landscape and A/C) in what people refer to as a 'game'.
When you're 'flying', the feeling of 'being there' is incredible, even with the current frame rate/stutter issues. I've found that I now have to fly with the canopy open all the time for an even better view of the realism.
All it needs is some scratch n sniff cards with exhaust fumes, cordite and grass smells.

And people build kit cars all the time. They buy those too, don't they? And provide their own engine.

Thanks 1c Maddox!


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