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Crni vuk 11-27-2010 12:19 AM

Goliath remote tank - Please fix !
 
The small lidle tank driving around =3 ? Anyone know it ? Yes ? Goood!

http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/d...moveh_fig1.jpg

You see this lidle bugger is quite a funny tool. But many people use it to "scout" which should be changed as really ... that thing was a wire controled mine that would be controled by a telephone / telegraph line (similar to the Milan anti tank system from 1970s if you want so just that the milan was a rocket based system). And the Goliath wasnt even that succesfull with its job, easily spoted and killed, got many times its cable disconected etc. BUT thats not important. What is really important is that it can be used to spot enemy units ! Or at least thats what some do with it.

I think the Goliath should get zero unit detection since its controled by some human person siting in a trench or bush somewhere not directly inside the rather small bomb. Its alright if you can see the area around it highlited like with a real human unit but as said it should not really give the position of the enemy away.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...f2e0e184fe.jpg

KnightFandragon 11-27-2010 02:27 AM

How in real life do you destroy that thing? My guess is it isnt armored that well but do Rifles penetrate it and disable it's inner workings or what?

Korsakov829 11-27-2010 04:11 AM

I'm sure you can roll it on its side with an infantry man.

totte1015 11-27-2010 09:26 AM

Umm... if i was a russian saw that thing coming closer... i would not run TO it and try to "flip" it :D

Crni vuk 11-27-2010 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KnightFandragon (Post 201145)
How in real life do you destroy that thing? My guess is it isnt armored that well but do Rifles penetrate it and disable it's inner workings or what?

By simply shooting at it. It isnt very well protected and could definetly be disabled by small arms fire. Well thats what I can read about it anyway.

Korsakov829 11-27-2010 05:40 PM

You could shoot out the tracks with a pistol but why risk a human being? Why not implement trained pidgeons dropping AT grenades?

Zeke Wolff 11-27-2010 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KnightFandragon (Post 201145)
How in real life do you destroy that thing? My guess is it isnt armored that well but do Rifles penetrate it and disable it's inner workings or what?

It´s armor (only 10mm thick soft steel) could be penetrated by a rifle bullet with ease, and that was usually enough to destroy some vital interior component.

It had a cirka 650 meter long wire attached to it (the wire contained three cables, one for reverse/forward speed, one for left/right turn and the third were used to detonate the vehicle when it reached its target).

It weighted 370 kilos, which means that it wasnt easy for a single enemy soldier to turn it over... but it could easily get trapped by the terrain etc.

Its main use was against bunkers, enemy stationary tanks and of course, infantry strongholds. It wasnt supposed to be used against any moveable tank.

Two versions were used; the Sd.Kfz. 303a carried a 75 kilos charge and had a weak engine. The later model, Sd.Kfz. 303b, introduced in 1942, carried a 100 kilos charge, and had a 703cc Zündapp motorcycle engine and the model weighted in at 430 kilos.

Main speed for both versions were about 12 KMH, whilst range was limited to roughly 1,2 kilometres (although the wire was only 650 metres long).

~Zeke.

Crni vuk 11-27-2010 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Korsakov829 (Post 201235)
You could shoot out the tracks with a pistol but why risk a human being? Why not implement trained pidgeons dropping AT grenades?

heh, well the Russians used "anti tank dogs" with ... letz say mixed results :rolleyes:

http://xmb.stuffucanuse.com/xmb/imag...i-tank-dog.jpg

Oh boy, thats a cruel way of using animals as weapons :-P

totte1015 11-27-2010 10:12 PM

But? did they use LIVING dogs?...
Poor bastards...

Korsakov829 11-27-2010 10:13 PM

100% Soviet ingenuity then. I would only send out a dog instead of a robot if I was desperate.

Was the Goliath in anyway quiet? It might not matter in the middle of a battle, but if it was fast and silent it would be perfect for ambushes.


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