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caprera 05-06-2013 03:21 PM

Worth waiting for expansions ?
 
I left CoD on the shelves for long time even though i was coming here sometimes to have a look at updates.

What I saw from the latest non-official updates is a great improvement on the original game but at the same time the setting has not moved an inch from the summer of 1940 and in almost 3 years no new planes have been added. I expected to see the latter Channel battle with Mk V & 109-F or even 190s; just fixes with gargantuan waiting times between patches.

Since the next chapter of IL2 won't be anything really new (eastern front again) I wanted to know if I can finally buy the game expecting some serious third party addons (not patches) like happened to IL2 or just pass once more...

Suggest me ;)

SlipBall 05-06-2013 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caprera (Post 502282)
I left CoD on the shelves for long time even though i was coming here sometimes to have a look at updates.

What I saw from the latest non-official updates is a great improvement on the original game but at the same time the setting has not moved an inch from the summer of 1940 and in almost 3 years no new planes have been added. I expected to see the latter Channel battle with Mk V & 109-F or even 190s; just fixes with gargantuan waiting times between patches.

Since the next chapter of IL2 won't be anything really new (eastern front again) I wanted to know if I can finally buy the game expecting some serious third party addons (not patches) like happened to IL2 or just pass once more...

Suggest me ;)


OK I will...next time you have a game that you are interested in, Buy It right away and support the developer.

kristorf 05-06-2013 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 502286)
OK I will...next time you have a game that you are interested in, Buy It right away and support the developer.

Lot's of us did, did the world of good didn't it???

Continu0 05-06-2013 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caprera (Post 502282)
I left CoD on the shelves for long time even though i was coming here sometimes to have a look at updates.

What I saw from the latest non-official updates is a great improvement on the original game but at the same time the setting has not moved an inch from the summer of 1940 and in almost 3 years no new planes have been added. I expected to see the latter Channel battle with Mk V & 109-F or even 190s; just fixes with gargantuan waiting times between patches.

Since the next chapter of IL2 won't be anything really new (eastern front again) I wanted to know if I can finally buy the game expecting some serious third party addons (not patches) like happened to IL2 or just pass once more...

Suggest me ;)

Well, CloD is worth its price... it`s like 10 bucks, so you won`t do anything wrong... If there is going to be some new theatre, it will be malta becaus of the planes that already exist...

caprera 05-06-2013 06:15 PM

Thanks for taking the time to answer guys.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Continu0 (Post 502288)
Well, CloD is worth its price... it`s like 10 bucks, so you won`t do anything wrong... If there is going to be some new theatre, it will be malta becaus of the planes that already exist...

Yes I just came to know about the price. Do you really think is it possible to see major additions to CloD or just suppositions ? Is there for CloD some "Team Daidalos" that is going to produce something like that ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 502286)
OK I will...next time you have a game that you are interested in, Buy It right away and support the developer.

I don't get it. You mean: "Wait for the next title" or what ?

danjama 05-06-2013 07:55 PM

There will be no more official add ons to CloD.

Osprey 05-06-2013 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caprera (Post 502282)
I left CoD on the shelves for long time even though i was coming here sometimes to have a look at updates.

What I saw from the latest non-official updates is a great improvement on the original game but at the same time the setting has not moved an inch from the summer of 1940 and in almost 3 years no new planes have been added. I expected to see the latter Channel battle with Mk V & 109-F or even 190s; just fixes with gargantuan waiting times between patches.

Since the next chapter of IL2 won't be anything really new (eastern front again) I wanted to know if I can finally buy the game expecting some serious third party addons (not patches) like happened to IL2 or just pass once more...

Suggest me ;)


Well I think they were waiting for you to join the development team in order that these miracles could happen but you didn't so they decided not to quit their jobs and work for nothing. I am as disappointed as you with these updates not bringing me the moon on a stick for absolutely nothing in barely any time, such a selfish lot.

Sokol1 05-06-2013 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caprera (Post 502289)
Is there for CloD some "Team Daidalos" that is going to produce something like that ?

Yes, Team Fusion.

Sokol1

caprera 05-06-2013 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danjama (Post 502297)
There will be no more official add ons to CloD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sokol1 (Post 502300)
Yes, Team Fusion.

Sokol1

Thanks guys, I'll have a look there, but if this is the general situation I suppose it's better to wait for the next chapter. Maybe expansions will be on the way with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osprey (Post 502299)
I am as disappointed as you with these updates not bringing me the moon on a stick for absolutely nothing in barely any time, such a selfish lot.

Apart from the stupid rest of your post, what's this supposed to mean?
I'm just asking for somekind of expansion I would be happy to pay for.

Continu0 05-06-2013 09:18 PM

caprera, what people are trying to tell you here is:

times have changed. It is not 1946 anymore...
This also means, that you just can not add a new plan within a couple of weeks. Every new addition made to the game takes hours and hours of time. The new reflections you see for example took 3 men to work for 3 months....

Team Fusion is doing a great job. They are investing a lot lot lot of time for free! Just for the Community...

What this also means is: You should not except anything. Be greatfull for what TF gives you, but don`t dare to ask for things. This is in some way unrespectful towards TF as they give their best and they really do it with passion and what`s most: they do it for free.

And what you already may have noticed: Some people get a little upset with you bumping in like "now that trouble seems to have gone, can I have all the good things?". The Community went trough a hard time and in some way everyone contributed to keeping the game alive: may that be with organising campaigns (e.g. osprey) or supporting ATAG with money or only keeping squadrons alive...

I personally do not have a problem with you coming and asking, but please try to understand people. There was a lot going on... and there is a lot of frustration around which is understandable...

AND: For the official part: The development of the Cliffs of Dover engine has stopped. You wont see any official add-on for this game engine. With the announced game, a whole new chapter will begin.

JG26_EZ 05-06-2013 09:56 PM

If it hasn't been said already..

Don't go by the date that CloD was released, go by the date that the public got the official word that there wouldn't be anymore patches (we all thought that the producers would be patching this game, and had no reason to have people/community working on patches).. The work TF has done, hasn't taken as long as one might think.
Plus.. The producers DID have pictures of new planes/scenery/season. We all thought this was going to become a reality until Black Six's post at 12-11-2012, 04:58 AM introducing the new IL2 that 777 is working with 1C on. Or if it was sooner, I'm sure someone will correct me.

Good things sometimes come to those who wait. ;)

caprera 05-06-2013 09:56 PM

Well, first of all thanks for explaining. I know modding and I even had a quick glance in cooperation with the Team Daidalos for an airstrip for the Italian map. So, yes I know the problems and the time it takes; I'm not asking for miracles in matter of hours.

I'm sorry if there is this frustration you talk about, but really I had no idea. I just felt disappointed for the tone of Osprey's answer, I happy to know that he's such an active member then.

However, I just had a look at the link Sokol provided and I see TF is working on a Malta idea. This is what I wanted to know and obviously I'm interested in help.

Thanks Continuo

MB_Avro_UK 05-07-2013 08:32 PM

My opinion.

Cliffs of Dover is the best WW2 aviation sim available. The Eastern Front sequel that will one day be available will no doubt be as good if not better.

Just a thought. Maybe if Cliffs of Dover had been an expansion of il2 1946, we would all now be happy??

Best Regards,
MB_Avro

Continu0 05-07-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caprera (Post 502309)
This is what I wanted to know and obviously I'm interested in help.

If you thereby mean that you feel capable of helping TF, just rush over to the ATAG-Forum and tell them what you can offer, they are happy about every helping hand!

caprera 05-07-2013 11:07 PM

I should revamp my Photoshop skills, but Yes I can help if they let me in :)

Continu0 05-08-2013 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caprera (Post 502390)
I should revamp my Photoshop skills, but Yes I can help if they let me in :)

Well then, sign up here:

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/forum.php

And ask ATAG_Bliss or any TF-Member (purple user-names)!

:)

Osprey 05-08-2013 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caprera (Post 502305)
I'm just asking for somekind of expansion I would be happy to pay for.

I'm afraid it came across as a complaint...

Quote:

Originally Posted by caprera (Post 502282)
What I saw from the latest non-official updates is a great improvement on the original game but at the same time the setting has not moved an inch from the summer of 1940 and in almost 3 years no new planes have been added. I expected to see the latter Channel battle with Mk V & 109-F or even 190s; just fixes with gargantuan waiting times between patches.



Quote:

Originally Posted by caprera (Post 502309)
Well, first of all thanks for explaining. I know modding and I even had a quick glance in cooperation with the Team Daidalos for an airstrip for the Italian map. So, yes I know the problems and the time it takes; I'm not asking for miracles in matter of hours.

I'm sorry if there is this frustration you talk about, but really I had no idea. I just felt disappointed for the tone of Osprey's answer, I happy to know that he's such an active member then.

However, I just had a look at the link Sokol provided and I see TF is working on a Malta idea. This is what I wanted to know and obviously I'm interested in help.

Yes the expansions are coming but it will take much longer than a paid development team. If you can help then please do so, if not the best thing you can do is get involved by actually playing and spreading the love for COD.

If you are just looking for action then take a look at Air Combat Group, we are always looking for pilots:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...67&postcount=5

caprera 05-08-2013 01:38 PM

Well there is a compliant but towards the producers that in my most humble opinion "abandoned" a game they already delivered way below the expectations.
Modders as always have my praises and considered the complexity of the models in game it's understandable the time it takes. What I meant about the setting and the new planes was not directed to them.

I sent a PM to Bliss already and I'm waiting for his response btw :)

DUI 05-15-2013 01:26 PM

Nice to have you onboard, caprera!

Would be great to see you once in the online skies of ATAG or Storm of War.

caprera 05-15-2013 06:48 PM

I just installed everything and i have TS already. These days I won't be very present as I have to move soon, so it will take while to join you guys :D

Osprey 05-20-2013 12:46 PM

We're a patient lot, we have learned to be, and we'll still be around. :)

Hope your move is smooth

caprera 05-20-2013 01:04 PM

Apparently not since one box disappeared in the first run :D

But I should finish this week.


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