Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 500872)

Try going over here, much more people there that can help you.

http://forum.il2sturmovik.net/

Originally Posted by Mattressi (Post 500871)

So CoD is apparently dead now (I guess I'm quite late to the party...) and I've just started to look into it. I was going to buy it (despite some of the things I've heard about it), but then I found out it used Steamworks DRM. Does anyone know if there are any plans to release a DRM-free (or less-DRM-full) version of CoD at some point? If it was released on GoG or even D2D I'd likely pick it up pretty quickly (depending on the price, of course). I just don't see any reason to pay $20 or so for a game which is apparently not that great and uses Steamworks DRM.

Also, while I'm here - how come CoD is no longer supported, yet Il-2 1946 is still being patched more than a decade on? I'm looking forward to the 4.12 patch for it, but I'm confused about why CoD will have no more patches after only 1.11. Different devs? Different publisher? Same everything, but the game sucks so bad that they've dropped it and ran?

Originally Posted by DUI (Post 500877)

You are right, this is the official forum of Cliffs of Dover.
SlipBall linked to a different website of a different Second World War flightsim currently being developed (probably not released before end of 2014).

To my knowledge, there is no planning to make Cliffs of Dover run without Steam. Personally, I am a friend of the Steam plattform, but this is another topic.

Thanks to the guys of Team Fusion who have published an amazing first version of their mod (see the thread in this forum or official Team Fusion forum) that fixes a lot of technical limitations of the game and adds great new content, I regard Cliffs of Dover as quite alive. In addition there is an enthusiastic online community on popular servers like ATAG or SOW with up to 100 pilots flying simultaneously.

Especially, if you like flying online with and against human pilots in a very realistic flight simulation and have a capable computer at home, I strongly recommend Cliffs of Dover.
Just try it out - for under $10 not much to think about.

Originally Posted by lensman1945 (Post 500876)

presumably you are aware of the latest community patch and the plans for further development of Clod..
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=39034

Originally Posted by DUI (Post 500877)

To my knowledge, there is no planning to make Cliffs of Dover run without Steam. Personally, I am a friend of the Steam plattform, but this is another topic.

Originally Posted by DUI (Post 500877)

Just try it out - for under $10 not much to think about.

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber (Post 500884)

Get it on Steam, steam required anyway!

http://store.steampowered.com/search...4__12&term=IL2

Originally Posted by Mattressi (Post 500871)

So CoD is apparently dead now (I guess I'm quite late to the party...) and I've just started to look into it. I was going to buy it (despite some of the things I've heard about it), but then I found out it used Steamworks DRM. Does anyone know if there are any plans to release a DRM-free (or less-DRM-full) version of CoD at some point? If it was released on GoG or even D2D I'd likely pick it up pretty quickly (depending on the price, of course). I just don't see any reason to pay $20 or so for a game which is apparently not that great and uses Steamworks DRM.

Also, while I'm here - how come CoD is no longer supported, yet Il-2 1946 is still being patched more than a decade on? I'm looking forward to the 4.12 patch for it, but I'm confused about why CoD will have no more patches after only 1.11. Different devs? Different publisher? Same everything, but the game sucks so bad that they've dropped it and ran?

Originally Posted by Mattressi (Post 500887)

Uh...it costs $49.99 USD on Steam (I'm in Australia,...)
Is there anywhere else that I can get it cheap?

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber (Post 500878)

Clod is not dead at all. Its just a huge secret! Its so good we want it all to ourselves! (...) But like I said, we dont want to many people to join our paradise because it will ruin it! :-P

Originally Posted by DUI (Post 500893)

I just sent you a private message. Maybe also for an Australian a way to get Cliffs of Dover a bit cheaper. :)

Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 500872)

Try going over here, much more people there that can help you.

http://forum.il2sturmovik.net/

Originally Posted by Liz Lemon (Post 500908)

Jason from 777 has said that they have nothing to do with CLOD. They don't have access to the code base and they don't have the rights to it.

Contacting 1C is the only avenue people should pursue if they want CLOD to be DRM free. But I very much doubt that 1C will do anything.

Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 500923)

B6 is still here. Whether he would answer is another matter. I wouldn't bother going to il2 net for anything to do with CoD, as its a totally different game being developed by a different company.
Go to ATAG, install the TF patch, and enjoy.

Originally Posted by Sokol1 (Post 500901)

LOL! Most CloD "haters/naysayers" are camping there, will lynch him. :)

Originally Posted by Sokol1 (Post 500901)

If believed that is "not great", better dont buy.
Use this "20$" to buy RoF scarf or planes, "Lions/Eagles" for War Thunder or save to buy Il-2 BoS - "The Redemption". ;)

Originally Posted by Sokol1 (Post 500901)

BTW - In SimHQ are a workaround to use CloD (offline) without Steam.

Originally Posted by Mattressi (Post 500925)

Thanks for the responses everyone :)



Well, so far I've just got no responses from the people there. I wasn't really looking forward to posting there, though - I don't know how I feel about BoS, given that 1-C dropped support for it so that the devs could "force" people over to BoS. I figured that if I didn't say something along those lines, I wouldn't get lynched, haha. But maybe I still will, if they hate CoD that much.



I don't really like RoF, WT is ok as a very basic (modelling-wise) "sim" (it's really a game, though) and as I said, I currently don't like the idea of BoS because CoD was abandoned. Plus, every combat sim I've played has had unrealistically awesome Russian aircraft and unrealistically mediocre German aircraft at the start, until people complain enough that it gets patched. If they follow this tradition, but also abandon BoS early, the Russians will always win :eek: (I think I'm only half serious about that...)



Awesome! I'll look that up now. I'm usually able to play (often online too), but it would be nice to know that I could keep playing it after 30 days of no internet. Thanks :)

Originally Posted by startrekmike (Post 500926)

Frankly, I would not let the 1C/777 situation taint your view of the product they make, who knows, maybe it will end up being really good and then you will have missed out on it.

Anyway, everyone has personal feelings about the whole thing that seem to run pretty deep, I personally think there are so few good flight sims that it never hurts to just say screw it and enjoy them all for what they are :)

Well, except War Thunder, I don't do F2P MMO's :p

Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 500954)

If they can offer something similar I would be very interested.. double click needed to view


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZyHy_FL0yE

Originally Posted by startrekmike (Post 500981)

So a AI bombing? I am pretty sure that most sims (and even non-sims) can do that.

Perhaps I missed something specific? If so, please tell me what I am supposed to be seeing.

Please note, not trying to be snide or whatever, I am actually curious.

Originally Posted by DUI (Post 501031)

Cool to me in this video is the nicely built airfield with the planes, cars and buildings, the graphic and sound in general, the beautiful and "unexpected" bomb explosions and the physic and damage model (though one of the trucks is flying quite some distance ;) ).