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raaaid 11-21-2012 12:17 PM

what won the war?
 
imo the nazi switching from bombing strategic targets to bomb civilians decided the war

i dont think this was a coincidence but brilliant psicological influencing by the british

fruitbat 11-21-2012 12:34 PM

50 cals.

JG52Krupi 11-21-2012 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fruitbat (Post 482923)
50 cals.

:rolleyes:

Richie 11-21-2012 12:58 PM

The breaking of the Germans Enigman machine code. Sit down for two hours and watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ITPAbYScIw

ACE-OF-ACES 11-21-2012 01:54 PM

P-51

major_setback 11-21-2012 02:24 PM

God.

chantaje 11-21-2012 02:27 PM

russians

JG52Krupi 11-21-2012 03:31 PM

Only a fool would say that a 50cal/P-51 won the war, sure they ended it a little bit sooner perhaps but the Luftwaffe were already struggiling against the shear number of bombers being thrown at them!

Anyway like I posted before the war could never have been won by the Germans!

fruitbat 11-21-2012 03:36 PM

Lol, both mine and aces replies were a homage to the ubizoo:rolleyes:

JG52Krupi 11-21-2012 03:41 PM

Whoops my apologies to both of you :oops:

I don't frequent ubizoo!

ElAurens 11-21-2012 03:51 PM

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets...7/p-51-361.jpg

:grin:

Actually it was the Allies ability at the logistics of war, our (the Allies) ability to produce vast quantities of all the things that it takes to win a protracted conflict, and the inept decisions made by Adolf Hitler and the Imperial Japanese.

Richie 11-21-2012 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chantaje (Post 482949)
russians


They did the most damage to the German army and the Russian winter.

ATAG_Doc 11-21-2012 04:08 PM

Me

ATAG_Snapper 11-21-2012 04:38 PM

Well, it sure wasn't the Spits and Hurricanes at the early stage. It was the Chain Home radar system. They emitted Death Rays, or something.

major_setback 11-21-2012 04:38 PM

Zlatan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF4bM8Qa2Vk


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JtD 11-21-2012 04:56 PM

Chuck Norris.

ACE-OF-ACES 11-21-2012 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fruitbat (Post 482957)
Lol, both mine and aces replies were a homage to the ubizoo:rolleyes:

Yup! us old timers! S!

Ya got to love these simplistic and/or simpleton "who won what" questions that pop up every so often..

And the comic book knee jerk politically correct responses to them..

And in light of this current rendition it looks like we can add to the list the ubi zoo ignorant and/or lighten up Francis aka humorless responses to responses! ;)

*Buzzsaw* 11-21-2012 05:28 PM

Salute

WWII, like WWI, was a war determined by simple raw manufacturing power.

What won the war was the fact the combined economic power of the Allied countries was much larger than the combined economic power of Hitler's Germany and all its conquests, plus Italy as well as Japan and all its conquests.

Plus the fact the largest of the Axis economies, Germany, was mismanaged from 1939 to 1942 and produced much less than it could have. Part of this was Hitler's doing, he was afraid of another revolution in Germany along the lines of the 1918 one if he cut back on luxuries and instituted rationing and a 24 hr a day war economy. So Germany remained on a peacetime manufacturing schedule for the first 3 years of the war, with German citizens enjoying most of the perks of peacetime.

And of course, slave labourers and the workers of defeated countries won't give you the same production levels as committed citizens. So for example, even though France produced a lot of weapons and resources for Germany, and even though its millions of captured soldiers provided much useful slave labour in German factories, the amount of production was far less than the French economy would have produced had it been for its own armies and people, and much of the products provided were either of poor quality or deliberately sabotaged.

On a more relativistic level, you can also say Hitler and the Japanese militarist's philosophy and moral code alienated the great majority of the world and stiffened their resolve. When you declare the rest of humanity are inferior and worthy only of death and extermination, it tends to provide incentive to resist.

arthursmedley 11-21-2012 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 482959)
Whoops my apologies to both of you :oops:

I don't frequent ubizoo!

Ahhhh, Krupi you would have been right at home at the 'zoo in it's heyday.
If I recall correctly the war was won by the P51 and it's ability to bounce .50 cals off the road into the soft underbelly of Tiger tanks!

Rjel 11-21-2012 05:52 PM

I'd say internet revisionist historians won it. Given a couple more generations of twisting, not only will the Axis powers really have been victorious, they will have been the victims in it all by being pushed into a war they didn't want because of evil allied aspirations and expansionism.

rga 11-21-2012 06:02 PM

Quote:

what won the war?
American money, British intelligent, Russian manpower and French mademoiselles XD

ACE-OF-ACES 11-21-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rjel (Post 482993)
I'd say internet revisionist historians won it. Given a couple more generations of twisting, not only will the Axis powers really have been victorious, they will have been the victims in it all by being pushed into a war they didn't want because of evil allied aspirations and expansionism.

Agreed 100%

Goanna1 11-22-2012 03:35 PM

Imagine how much more developed and enlightened humans and 'humanity' would have become if the resources wasted on conflict were used for the betterment of our species instead of pandering to our tribal and genocidal tendencies.
Then the question posed as the basis for this thread would be unnecessary

major_setback 11-22-2012 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goanna1 (Post 483182)
Imagine how much more developed and enlightened humans and 'humanity' would have become if the resources wasted on conflict were used for the betterment of our species instead of pandering to our tribal and genocidal tendencies.
Then the question posed as the basis for this thread would be unnecessary

Yes, but then there would be no CoD or IL2. Would it really be worth it?

:-)

swiss 11-22-2012 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Goanna1 (Post 483182)
Imagine how much more developed and enlightened humans and 'humanity' would have become if the resources wasted on conflict were used for the betterment of our species instead of pandering to our tribal and genocidal tendencies.

Less I guess.
The pressure to survive(or win) usually speeds up engineering skills. ;)

The shadows in Babylon5 were right on this.


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