No loss. . . how ?
 

Im trying to do my first impossible run, with no losses but i do have some difficulties. Im still on the first island clearing undeads for whips but i cant do 2 of those without loosing troops. They use poison spell and ghost blade, 120 dmg is more then most of my troops can take or a soothsayer can heal.
Im playing a mage and dont have any spells that can help yet.
Are there any tricks to get past this ?

tips for soothsayer

is

order level 3(heal for damaing the undead and healing yourself
or rune magic level 3(using the winter circle to kill alot)


other than that to not let him cast damaging spells are this
using call of nature scrolls so he cast it on them instead of your real units
try using different unit combinations
LIke splitting soothsayers(the unit) with axethrowers and beserkers

or using slingers to he will cast sheep/fear/doom on them

IIRC a soothsayer can survive a ghost blade/poison skull from the black knight

but not from the necromancer

My problem is that i cant get past first island without loosing troops , and i got no spells to help me. no natures call and no units (except soothsayers) that can survive 120\125 dmg spells

There is a way to solve all of this.

Just play the game. :)

It's ok to have losses, sometimes you just can't stop them. If the enemy casts ghost blade and your units die, you just couldn't do anything.

Of course, reloading and replaying the same battle 1548 times would solve the problem of losing units eventually, but such a loss of time and energy is hardly recommendable.

try to restart the game

and just look at the difficulty of them

(troop strenght in Leadership)

sometimes the fights are indeed impossible cause of the high leadership

but sometimes they have low leadership and u can steamroll them

and as soothsayer make sure u get nature scroll ( i think winter's circle is fixed and so is healing IIRC)

tiberiu is right. Losing some slingers isn't a big deal. Losing a core level 5 unit that is hard to find is another story.

Also, I'd personally restart until you can get Call of Nature. It helps minimize losses a bit.

i restarted multiple times for my mage, when i got nature call i missed heal and vice verse, it depends on luck A LOT, my warrior first roll i had like +4 int in the shops (belt, staff, artifact) man why couldn't have that on my spell-caster. sometimes i think this game just teasing me, i need to open the pc and get rid off these unfriendly gremlins inside.

You want first Island really easy you can just start game open first 2 chests nothing good then reboot start over real fast. Save before you get to bridge check inside first part of training area nothing good reboot. Reload tell guy on bridge you wanna skip tutorial check the island first. Nothing good? start new game. I did this a few times looking for heal and I got a shield that gave me 300 leadership and flag that gave me 200 plus another item that gave me 50. let me tell you at level 1 with 1000 leadership no loss is very easy. Then you can sit back enjoy game after first island.

Managed to do them with a bit of luck but still didnt found any decent spells or items. I guess i will fast clear all the way to leaving the island , if i still dont get anything good , i will most likely restart.
Tnx for the tips tho. Cheers

no problem

if u need any more advice just ask me
and u can always leave a save file here and let someone else do it :)

Someone else doing it would be a nifty challenge for someone! :)

Also, there is usually a healing scroll on the right side of the map but you have to dig it up.

Maybe I just got super lucky but in my 2nd playthrough with a Mage, I still got it.

My 1st playthrough as a Viking/Warrior, I got about 4 Calls of Nature, and a lot of healing scrolls but... no way I could learn Order magic so it was a big trickier.

Started a new run and found 2 call of nature in the first stash , so it looks good so for :D

Tell me this, how on earth do you plan on killing the spider boss without losses?

Either 3 individual troll stacks, 2 individual troll stacks, or single troll stack. :)

CP from other thread:

The undead spiders will kill your trolls fast if you don't have some backup, and that backup is gonna get casualty

Without preplanning, yes, otherwise, not necessarily. :)

I was particularly fortunate with my Viking/Warrior build as I had Slippery Cuirass and Twinkling Boots PLUS Shield of Rage.

This was not one of my shining moments in KB history, as the battle took over 100 rounds. I prefer much faster battles by far. :)

If you don't have Shield of Rage, this battle could take much longer.

This is where three separate stacks of troll is better. You keep trolls in the corner where they can only be hit by 2 spider stacks. You keep one 'weak' spider stack adjacent to one troll and the stack that gets "retaliated" against is the "dangerous" one.

You always attack the spider if he is in your corner.

Even when the spiders get up to 400 or so, as long as you 'defend' that round against the spider minions, you should be fine unless you are in melee against the spider boss (ergo, you need to recasting stoneskin and magic spring).

The spider's ranged "magic" attack is weaker, so you can tend to survive. Unfortunately, without Shield of Rage, the 'bad morale' curse might let a troll die that round.

Single 3 troll stack works with shield of rage fairly well, but I think when I did it, shield of rage was bugged (removed too often) and your problem is getting to the spider boss after he moves from one location to another AND getting webbed.

That said, I might go for the "beat spider boss in 10 round" achievement instead next time around. I was worried I would never find trolls again or I would use them immediately afterwards.

Neither ended up being true as I found over 230+ trolls later on and I was relying on horsemen was my meatshield, attacker, AND interceptor.

The AI is rather chaotic with its actions. Those who try to win the tough battles with no losses replay those battles a lots of times. When the enemy hero cast direct damage spell and the killed units are impossible to be resurrected they replay the battle and do something different. Usually this is enough for the AI to do something different too etc etc. If the AI has the 1st move and use direct damage spell ASAP they may replay the battle with another kind of troops instead with higher initiative OR go for another battle instead. If you do something different there is always a chance the AI will react different.
If you think this is rather boring... well, it is boring indeed - but there are people which enjoy it.

No loss Spider for soothsayers is easy if you have Summon Phoenix and Calm Rage scrolls..... :grin:

I don't think I've ever had either of those spells pre-spider boss.

I got resurrection in my last game in the shops. so yes - it is possible to get high end spells in the very beginning.