What we didn't want to hear
 

Ok, so we got the news that we didn't want to hear, but at least Luthier has had the balls to front up and tell us.
Now at least we know that the series will follow the earlier series in that sequels will merge with the previous as in FB,AEP,Pacific Fighters.
This information means that there will be more planes,maps and hopefully the graphic improvements in the way of fm, dm etc.

Thanks Luthier, now this should bring closure to a lot of moans and speculation that we had.

Now we know where the series is headed provided that the production survives and that will depend largely on us.
We either support the team or we don't and that will determine the end result.
Thinking back to the earlier series there were the same sort of moans and speculation but look how that turned out, still the best flight sim produced over the last 10 years (yeh ok, with the help of some mods, but still the best and still going strong).
When and if the development team allow external content to be added we will probably see the true successor to the early Il2 rise.
I must admit that some of the early mod content in the original series left a lot to be desired but it has kept the whole Sturmovik Series at the top of the tree bar none.
The only thing I would like to see addressed in the sequel is a more user friendly QMB as in the early series.

The developer is planning for a future for this sim. It business model looks like it will be similar to the first IL2 series.

It all looks good to me!

I skipped the first 3 years of the original IL2 because it wouldn't run on my system at the time. I'm sure a lot of people were in a similar situation to me at the time.

Given half a chance the new series will be a worthy successor. In the mean time it's still great to get onto a multiplayer server with teamspeak and just go for it!

Tactics and Team work ensure the same result. It will be even better once some of the Flight model/AI issues are sorted!

Cheers!

I hope they can pull it off. It's. Going to be hard, after this huge disapointment. I'm looking forward to the sequel, hoping it will bring some of the beauty and colors back, but unlike last time, I won't preorder two copies, months before release. They'll have to earn it.
I don't agree with the Il2 co paration. Everyone was impressed with the il2 from the start, and most could play it on lower settings.

That wasn't my experiance.

My computer at the time ran most other sims - Janes WWII Fighters, Longbow, Comanche EF2000 etc, at full settings no problems. Just running the original IL2 on the lowest setting was a slide show, and it looked like crap on low settings. It wasn't until Pacific Fighters came around that I looked at the series again with a substantially more powerful PC that I actually got back into the series.

At least on my mid range PC today I can run COD at medium to high and have a hoot on online. Performance on my mid range system is OK. I won't even think of an upgrade until the optimising completed.

Developers do your stuff.

pretty much this, i only got into il2 after about 5 years of it existing simply because i lacked a machine with the oomph to play it properly. i'll be doing the same with this series as well - waiting for it to develop and stabilise then getting a machine that will be capable of running it for a good few years through further improvements and development.

True. My video card with 4MB vram (really!) just wasn't up to spec. Think the minimum recommended back then was a massive 16MB!!

Yes and IL-2 got great reviews (9's), not so for CoD (4's and 5's). We are supposed to forget that I think.

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Sorry, but I had never any problems to run any of the IL2 original to the IL2 1946 with the same pc and I have never know anyone in my friend that had any problem with it. Lock on yes IL2 no! Only with COD did some stutter appear with a new and more formidable pc. But this is the consequence to a new a way of codding of the environment by the development team. Beautiful but heavy and complicated.:grin:

Lol senesispcc now we know your lying or mistaken I don't know anyone who didn't have some sort of problem with the original game it was only until forgotten battles that the game cane into its own when ppl had much better pc's.

We will ALL buy the sequal.

You know YOU will ;)

We moan and b*tch, but we are deep down loyal to the genre.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro

I fear (!) you are right. Just now, with latest announcements and exploding threads, these discussions between whiners and fanboys once again provide the excitement that CLOD is not able to give at this very point.

Remember it is "Battle of Britain" Day today (September 15th) - and the great circus is re-opened with the "development update" news from yesterday :mrgreen:

Actually the direction cliffs of dover took, after about three four months after release, pretty much cured my need for flight sims. The ugly grey mess, cliffs of dover became, made it possible.
They'll have to work hard for my money next time and I'll only get it after others try It.....
..........Unless, of course, they bring back the gorgeous sunsets and lighting, or bring flyable IAR-80/81 with the battle of Stalingrad addon. :lol:

truthsay

Sorry but from the original IL2 until IL2 pacific war I did play each of them many hours not without problems but play I did and not only single player but also in little groups of four players in local lan games. With pc's equiped p4 lga775 2core 2.8ghz 4gb memory and some gfx480 if my memory does function correctly.

480? then it was forgotten battles you were playing not the original...

I was playing forgotten battles on a 7800gt iirc :D

Sorry, but there was a lot of problems with old il2 especially until dual core CPUs arrived.
It was playable on mx480 but on low resolution and on low to medium settings.I wasn't flyin online with that card but I remember problems that my friends had online.

When the new water came I bought midrange 6600 OC'ed it on 6600GT clocks
and with very fast Athlon @2.1 GHz(for that time) and offline everything was fine.
But online, 50-60 pilots on the server, lot of flak FPS dropped to 15 and that was 4-5 years after the sim was released and @1068 resolution.
Then dual core CPUs and new GFX cards arrived and everything was fine.

For CloD I upgraded PC, i5 and midrange 560 ti and after few first patches didnt have any problems with the new sim, even in 1.05 I had very rare CTDs.

I agree to some extent, as I helped beta test the original version, it was very system demanding, but it ran very well on my highly optimized system. There were a few bugs, but no show stoppers, with a constant stream of patches that included new content aswell as bug fixes. When they added new theaters, new features, bug fixes were included with the new maps, missions, and aircraft. Hopefully the development will stay the course with this business model. Although I doubt we will see as much free content, as we did in those days.

My son got me hooked into this sim and there possibly isn't a day that goes by that I don't question my mentality.
I started off with a 2g cpu, Agp graphics card(possibly 250mb v/ram?) and 1gb mem. Then up graded to 2.4g dual core cpu about the middle of the series and a 6600gt card, also m/b change.
Then along comes C.o.D., up goes the ante.
First 9600gt card (1gb v/ram) another 4gb ram (now 6gb total) oh god what happens then, the poor old p/s starts coughing and dies.
Decisions,decisions what to do.
Well i finally bit the bullit and decided on a complete re-build. Which way do I go? I finally decided on an Sli system to give me some options and don't regret it at all. I have had this running now for about 12 months and after a lot of experimenting with settings have good results with C.o.D.

The old system I repaired and past on to my other son's family and they are still using it.

Thank goodness the old series is still going strong because it will act as a feeder to this series as it progresses. I still go back to the old series and probably will continue to do so because there is continuing expansion there, some very good (new planes, effects and maps) and with software like "Mission Mate" and others it is very easy and quick to build missions with a huge choice of aircraft.

Oleg maybe long gone but his legacy lives on.

The king is dead, long live the new king

S!

I can say the CloD (collectors edition) dog has barked the 50 euros it cost me many times over for me. Will happily pay for the sequel to get to the Eastern Front.

Eastern front...yawn. Flying Russian tractors blowing up German trucks and trains. Boooorrrrring, except you are Russian.

Western Front for me. Big raids, P51, P47, Typhoon/Tempest, Mosquito, Spit IX, Fw190, 109G/K, 210, 262...list is long. More sexy.

Russian planes is the Babushkas from Eurovision, Western theatre planes is hot like Nicky Minaj.

+1 :grin:

Planespotter said:

...okeydokey....:o

I could post an equally sarcastic reply but I'll play nice for now. :cool:

I very much prefer the Eastern Front for its constantly fluid and varied situations over the "same procedure as every year" kind of straightjacket that is the air war in the West. Pony, Spit, P-38, Jug, big bomber fleets at 8000 meters ... they give me nothing ... *yaaaaaawn*
Eastern Front means something of everything ... busting artillery positions, tanks and trenches, supply interdiction over the supply roads, bomber attacks on supply hubs, HQs, repair shops and a large quantity of unpredictability and surprise. Not to mention many interesting aircraft.

Now, North Africa ... that would have been interesting, too. ;)

<Snapper mutters to himself, "Nicky who?" ....googles "Nicky Minaj".....Google responds..."Do you mean NICKI Minaj?" .....Snapper responds "Sure, whoever".....ZOWIE!!!!!>

Hey, everyone, Nicki Minaj is HOT!!!!

nothing to add. perfectly right.

Hot?? its a bushpig

Im looking at her/him and cant figure out if its a shemale or not...;)

So Nicky Minage would be a P47...the Jug, hot is not a term I would associate with NM.

Aaaccckkk!!! Say it ain't so! LOL

The game was sold as the Battle of Britain which we in the UK wanted,i don't really have much interest in Russia.

Hee hee.

IL2 aircraft and Eastern front attract this type of woman
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...66_468x297.jpg

P51 attract this type of woman...
http://www.aviationexplorer.com/Girl...ennisePele.jpg

P40, this
http://www.aviationartcentral.com/im...llOneBLITZ.jpg

Spitfire, this
http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumb...gthumbnail.jpg

This you just have to accept, sorry! :)

+1, The reason why there are no pics of a hot woman next to a russian fighter is that unlike all the other fronts they actually flew in them :P

Personally, I wont be putting my money anywhere near the sequel until I read through forums such as these that it is worth purchasing. I can't see that being the case for a long time to come.

You be the first one to buy it Ruski, then let us all know if it's worth it or not.

CS. :)

If you didn't have such a broken down PC Crazy you might be able to get it to work.

Never mind just keep on with the music and web site stuff, maybe you and your mate might finally get that all to work. (I'll remind you about your post if the sequel gets here first)

Is this Nikki's Mom?:)

http://www.logotv.com/shows/rupauls_...g//510x340.jpg

true... hard it is to find something like

http://accessoriesstoresonline.com/w...-Sharapova.jpg beside a Russian jet, but she sure could make a ball fly

If totallly plastered someone might find that Nicki Minaj hot *turns around to vomit*

http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i50/5/5/8/...ree-4115a5.jpg

Hmmmm, no worries, mate. Plastered or sober, I'll take Nicki Minaj and you can stick with Gene Wilder. Win-win! :-P