Spitfire i vs bf-109e3
 

The spitfire I is way to slow to catch up the AI bf-109's
on the other hand if you fly the 109 you can catch the spitfire I AI more easy
in reality that wasn't be the case

you chase the 109's and they are make some very quick manouvers or rolls
you chase the spits and they are deploy the flaps
come on...

Got any historical sources to back up your claims?

There was no AI in reality.... ;)

You guys got your 100 octane and I KNEW IT - what you want next is a button "AUTOMATIC KILL" or what? We have some really nice balance right now. If a 109 starts to turn he is dead. If a Spit is bad in energymanagement he ist dead.
Its that simple.

Winger

EDIT: Or are we talking Singleplayher here? If yes i didnt say anything since i dont care for singleplayer.

He talks about singleplayer....

Do you have the latest beta? it fixes the unrealistic rolls...

Planeperformancewise i am totally happy with the last beta.

Winger

He edited the post. ;)

IM TALKING ABOUT THE AI on singleplayer and only with the AI BF-109'S is like cheating...when they zoom theres no way to catch them just test it
100 octane fuel is not what im LOOKING for is about the FM
if the Spitfire I is original like we have now then its fine for me

Youre my hero now:P

Winger

well they are not my claims but Douglas Bader had something to say about it read "reach for the sky" a biography on Bader by Paul Brickhill.

Cheers

Niels

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I think the post was reworded so to make it clear it was about the sim and AI rather than RL.

I dont know, just a guess.

OP:
Thing is the AI cheat. Just like old IL2 fb. They dont suffer overheats etc. Its not the same FM and DM as a player aircraft. ;)

exactly ON MY MIND
thanks FARBER


AND YES I EDITED THE POST

Why anyone would expect to see realistic behaviour offline is beyond me.

Everyone knows the AI are atrocious.

well, some flight sims have pretty good AI, also CODs predecessor with the latest patch and HSFX6...CODs AI is a joke in comparison...

its better now since the latest beta patch but there are still many things that are ridiculous...Spits and Hurris pushing negative gs where a human 109 pilot cant follow,...and now the AI seems to crash pretty often into the ground for no apparent reason.

exactly
for example did you ever fly Wings of Victory II
it has the best AI that i ever saw in a flight sim

the other thing is that are many people that is offline players
desastersoft have done an extremely good work on they're campaign's and very accurate historicaly with lots of details
i have join multiplayer many times and its great but
but a great singleplayer campaign is also great IMHO..

The AI ​​does not fight with tactics. All they do is chase you and try to find your 6. For example, the 109 enter in turns with you when you're flying a Spit instead of an energy fight.
But, i think, in the actual situation of the sim, the AI is no their main priority ...

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Please do not go there. Do not try to compare apples and oranges, they have not the same color the same taste and have ,nothing in common appart they are fruits. The same with Spitfires and BF109 the only thing they have in common is they are fighter planes it is all. Never try to compare them it is impossible.

Yeah but which is better? the apple or the orange?

:grin:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e-Ra0dH-Lg

To be honest, since last weeks beta patch the AI is so much better than it used to be, the f16 barrel rolls are gone, but they are still way faster than your plane. Even the AI hurricane can get away from me if I'm in a 109.

The question is stupid and the answer shall be stupid!
The taste is not the same!

since there are both fighters you can compare it
ask your self
if you had the chance to go back in that period which would you prefer to fly in combat
the EMIL
or
the SPIT
:-)

exactly.....which tastes better?