Mixed up things, now stuttering...
 

Hi all,

Due to too much money in the pocket, I upgraded my old Q9550 with 560Ti to a brandnew i5 3570K with GTX670 GPU. Matter of fact, I thought to test the new performance I should get in CloD and played around with the settings, e.g. switching everything to max. Surprise surprise, while the game runs smooth, the stutters seems to be comparable to the Q9550/GTX560Ti setup I had before. Now I do not remember which setting needs to be reduced slightly to avoid these stutters :rolleyes: Any hints?

regards

As with many new games on the market today, simply setting everything to max will not be optimal.

Try turning grass/off, ssao/off, trees, and buildings down.

Antivirus/windows defender/firewall off.

I plan to try whith the new patch but some say that turning off multithreading is key.

A clean installation of your o.s. (preferably win7)

Latest nvidia beta drivers help the 6 series cards.

edit*
press the ~ button and enter fps START SHOW to see any improvements with fps before and after.

It helps if you post all your sys specs too.

Good luck and lets us know if that helps!

I am a little confused by:
but I can at least give you a place to start; these are my settings, and the game runs very smoothly (without stutters) with the following settings:
Cpu @ 4.2GHz
Resolution: 1920 x 1080
All graphic details set to ‘High’
AA, SSAO and A-E set to ‘Off’
VSYNC 'On' (but "Off' for benchmark)
Grass, shadows, roads ‘On’
I use SMAA instead of in-game AA – better quality and no performance loss.
‘Black Death’ benchmark: 44, 99, 7 fps (avg, max, min)

Your machine should run these settings at a higher frame rate than mine, so I would suggest turning one thing up from here at a time – maybe Terrain to ‘Original’ and then Buildings to ‘Unlimited’, and so on. At some point the stuttering may become apparent again, then just un-do the last setting that you changed.

Well, thank you guys. Point seems to be that I have to turn back in trying different settings and see how this works out. Bad. BTW: how do I get the Black Death benchmark? Is this already included in the game or do I have to download this first.

@MajorBorris: I am certainly not going to turn off grass etc. with a 3570K@4.0GHz, 8GB RAM and a OC GTX670. This is ridiculous. But thanks for the hint with the 304.48 drivers and the "how to turn FPS indication" on. Will try that one first to get a handle on the actual FPS (however, as I stated, the game runs smooth but with stutters...)

Tweaks
 

Hi Querer,

Not as rediculous as you might think, some folks need 60fps for a smooth experience while others are fine with 30fps. When you are parked at a airfield and you pan your head left and right, if the the trees and buildings in the distance are stuttering then your experience may be less then optimized.

Note how the envirment feels while panning @60fps, if you notice a less then smooth experience at less then 60fps, you may prefer 60fps to anything less.

If you find that your frames are dropping down to 55fps and you realy need that extra 5 fps for vsync, thats where less trees/buildings or grass might be a casualty etc....

Furthermore the vram the sim needs can exceed your graphics card at max settings easily.

One other thing, use FXAA in the nvidia control panel and the other AntiAliasing options set to aplication controlled or off, set in game setting for AA to off for better performance.

Black Death is under Extras/Tracks.

This may help:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=19819


See ya in the air!

Isnt it "fps START SHOW" ?

I always forget that, even after 10 years lol

Un-zip and paste the attached copy of my file into your C:\Users\<user name>\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover folder, over-writing the one there (which is blank by default) – I’ve added the two commands to start and stop showing the fps counter. Then, when calling up the console in game, pressing the up or down arrow will select the two commands alternatively. Typing a command when in game will write the commands to this file anyway, as well as any mistyped ones, which you can later edit out by right-clicking on the file and selecting ‘Edit’.

That sounds pretty cool TonyD : )

The problem I have is that neither the "§" key nor the "~" key nor the combination Shift+Alt opens the console. Do I have to add something in steam for the exe file?

Are you in the cockpit *or a track
(required) when the tilde key does not work?


Sounds like the control is missing though.

I tried it in the cockpit, yes, and also while "watching" the black death track to get a benchmarklike result. Never got the console open. Maybe I unintendently deleted the assignment for "open console"? Is this possible?

BTW: I also customized the Info-windows in my views, maybe I customized the console away?

EDIT: forgot to mention that I use a Swiss (German) keyboard layout. Maybe this corrupts the key assignement?

S!

Querer, just go to Options -> Controls and assign key combo to Console. Then apply and save as the game does not recognize them if you do not save and apply. I put the console to the old IL-2 keys: shift + tab and works.

Mine is 'Alt C', not sure if this was the default or if I set it myself.

Well, thanks for all the help guys. I am soon going to put some values of FPS up here, if I have time. For the moment I can say, the new 304.48 drivers almost completely removed stuttering for me, even the black death track seems fluid now, still some FPS drops visible though. But I am happy with the performance on my rig (i5 3570K@4.0GHz, 8GB RAM, GTX670 OC) for now. Still looking forward to the next official (non beta...) Patch increasing the performance even further :cool:

EDIT: it was indeed the case that there was no key assignment to open the console. Now I managed to get the FPS shown on screen. Black Death track I got now MIN: 0 (don't ask me why, probably the first two seconds after loading), AVG: 55, MAX: 172. Looks like I can live with that.

EDIT2: I still get massive framedrops when something is exploding. Which setting has the biggest impact on this fact? I could easily live with less eye candy on this side, but the framedrop down to 15-20FPS in the black death track when the bombs on the runway explode is ridiculous...

The ‘Visual Effects’ setting controls the detail of the explosions, and (in previous versions) reducing this results in a fair gain in frame rates. I haven’t tested the difference since the graphics engine re-write, but think that the gain now should reasonably be less. What you are seeing is not abnormal though.

Maybe I should first install the beta patches then? Still have the official patch from steam, not any additional patch installed so far...

The previous beta patch introduced a new graphics engine (code) that was intended to massively improve performance, but introduced a lot of new issues as well the absence of some graphic effects that were DirectX 9 based. The latest beta patch improved some things further, but again introduced some new issues that weren’t apparent in the previous version. A bit difficult to give some relevant advice here, but I would say from what you have posted that your performance is currently very good, and you most likely will not experience a significant improvement with these patches (someone with specs similar to yours could offer a better opinion, maybe).

If you do try them you can always revert to your current (official) version by verifying the game files in Steam. It is advisable to delete the game cache files when updating (and reverting) like this to avoid possible graphic anomilies (..\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-s sturmovik cliffs of dover\cache). The game will rebuild these when run again.