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Hi i recently purchased il2 cliffs of dover from steam just for abit of a change from playing my favorite flight sim Rise of flight. I used to play the old il2 forgotten battles a few years ago before i played rof so i thought it would be a blast to fly some ww2 planes again. But after 10 mins with the sim i was far from impressed so i came to these forums to read some posts on here and then i realized i had made a major mistake to say the least. How could they sell this game on steam in this current state its like daylight robbery i wish i would of read up on the forums first before i purchased. But i thought to my self i used to play the old il2 and it was great so didnt think it would be a problem. I could of used that money to pre order the new ROF content instead atleast with 777 studios you know the new dlc content will be top notch and i would get my moneys worth and then some. Really sad how this once great series has ended up this bad. :confused:

I'm calling you out homeboy you are a Fake.

This is not your very first post. Never even made an account here until now? Whatever. Fake.

I mean dude didn't you even READ the Amazon customer ratings? A lot of you guys that whine seem to think so.

I mean you play the old sim and this is your first post. Come on man.

Nothing new to anyone here. You have to deal with it, sorry. Wait for the major patch that is announced...

Club.

They needed money from sales to continue development, which is why they released it.

For one, if you managed to dig up enough info to find this forum, then why not dig out the info here to answer your questions? Oh wait, you don't have any questions? Hmm... then this is just a statement? Why state something everyone here knew since last year when it was released?

I smell someone being banned then creating a new account to continue their troll. If I am wrong, then I do apologize and I would suggest you spend 15 minutes reading some 100+ other similar threads here and use the same responses as an indication to what is going on.

Find the users Luthier and Blacksix, then go to show all posts. Really, that is the only relevant stuff on these forums, besides the serious bug reports and improvement suggestions.

Improvements are being made, your money may feel wasted now, but after a little more time it will be much better than now. It already is way better than when it was initially released, if that is any comfort. You've missed out on the worst parts :) Consider yourselv supporting a cause, you won't benefit from it now, but at a later time. Cheers

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How much did you pay, may I ask? Only fools pay more than 10 EUR for CloD these days. 20 for the Collector's edition.

10 EUR isn't even two boxes of cigarettes.

So where ist the problem? Lean back and wait for the patch. Or go playing outside in the garden meanwhile.

I smell troll.

Pity you can no longer do anything about it :P

Wanna bet?
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wow alot of comments for a saturday i thought you would all be playing il2 clod obviously not. Call me a troll all you like i payed for this game so i can vent my opinions on it so other people dont make the same mistake as i did. And also im not really one for forums like you rivit counters ide rather spend my time playing but then you dont really have much of a sim to play with do you. Nice community btw

Turn off the epilepsy filter.

I'm probably assuming a bit, but if you fly RoF, then you probably visit their forums. I've been on them enough to know that CoD's taken it's share of lumps there, and that if you paid an ounce of attention you'd have known about CoD's condition - at least a little bit.

That said, I feel your pain - just like every one else here.


Edit: I have to honest here. I NEVER buy a game without looking at a developer's forum and getting an idea of how the game has progressed. Being a rivet counter has nothing to do with it. I try to look out for my money and spending habits by investigating a little bit. It doesn't take much. I DID buy CoD to invest into it's future. I knew full well about it's limitations and bought it any way.

Good luck. I hope they can fix it enough to satisfy us all. I know 1C is working their arsses off to accomplish just that.

Cool.

The ignore-list makes the game better?

Wow...why am I on his ignore list....what did I do?

Just makes it hard to take you serious when your initial post did not contain one sentence about any one thing that you have issue with.. That is to say, if you want some useful feedback to your post, your going to have to provide more than a child like vent in your post

PS welcome or welcome back to the forum! ;)

Sure does!

Yep, 7 mill and 8 years was clearly not enough.

+1

Bricks said (of JG56Uther's much -paraded Ignore List) :

>>Cool.

The ignore-list makes the game better? <<

:-) :-) :-) :-)

Rise of flight must really be hurting for players.

Actually RoF is fun, in spite of its faults, but it is also a very small community of players and is teetering on the edge of the financial abyss, which is why I decided to support the genre and start playing it again.

But it's no IL2 and never will be.

*Ducks for cover and waits for fanboys to come diving out of the sun... at 90mph*

I agree with everything you said EL. I did the same thing for 2 years, paying for a high end MP server, and buying every single thing they bought. But eventually, when you are told the most glaring issues in the game aren't going to be fixed, the ones that would turn that small community into a large one, you ultimately give up on it.

I believe the last straw was the selling of gauges that should be part of the planes in the 1st place - stuff like compasses, fuel gauges, gun sights, etc. for your plane. You soon realize that the broken parts of the game were never to be fixed. The master browser still is a POS failing all the time. The object limitations are the same. The amount of objects you have in a mission are the same. Not a single object added to the ME to make it more immersive, but they can model a streamer or a pistol to sell. You blow up a train in MP the server lags all over the place (3 year problem now) but they model different color streamers to sell.

If they fix these problems, I'll buy everything. But all I ever see over there is more stuff to buy while the major glaring problems never get addressed.

But in the end, it is fun to FPS it a bit in the sky. But you soon realize how boring that becomes as well.

The ignore list is like a pair of rose colored tinted glasses. It makes you see this ugly mess of a world beautiful and happy....The ugly mess still blows, you just pretend what you see through your tinted glasses is reality.


....plus you miss half the fun.:lol:

Absolutely.

It's a bit like the kid at school constantly coming up to tell you they're ignoring you, waving a big placard saying 'I am ignoring you'.

It generally raises a wry smile of indulgence.

What slightly surprises me over the years is that you'd expect the complainers/whiners/critics (I am one) to post more, since they are not busy playing the game.

But in this case, on this forum, many of the self-styled anti-whiners post more frequently, or at least as frequently, as those who have no interest in playing the game as it stands...wchich suggests they're also not playing it a whole bunch either.

If it's so great, why aren't they playing it more instead of posting here? Or waving placards/Ignore Lists

It speaks volumes.

rotfl

Not really

One just has to realize, that during the week a lot of us are at work.. And during our breaks we can web in and read and post.. and our employers don't mind. Where as the employer does mind if you installed unapproved software (games) on your work PC followed by you ducking and weaving back and forth in your chair like your having a stroke with the sound of gun fire echoing down the hall.

Granted the out of work kid-os living in moms basement may not be able to relate, but who cares what they think anyways? ;)

I guess not.

Ace-of-Aces said:

>>One just has to realize, that during the week a lot of us are at work.. And during our breaks we can web in and read and post.. and our employers don't mind. Where as the employer does mind if you installed unapproved software (games) on your work PC followed by you ducking and weaving back and forth in your chair like your having a stroke with the sound of gun fire echoing down the hall.

Granted the out of work kid-os living in moms basement may not be able to relate, but who cares what they think anyways? <<

Blimey, a post of yours I cannot whole-heartedly disagree with :)

So does this mean do not post much on Sundays? :)

All depends on the lenght of my honey-do list! ;)

Sums it up.

I really dont get all this. The game is playable for me, and my system isnt that impressive. I average 50fps in most situations.

That is a good thing dan!!

Because you really don't want to understand how the profesional whiners mind works! ;)

At time of screenie* (Sat 21st April 8.40pm GMT) RoF actually had more players online than CoD....just checked. More on a lot of weekends recently, actually. The numbers are very low through the week though, for sure.

I think everyone knows that WWII will generally always be more popular amongst simmers than WWI. More powerful aircraft, bigger guns etc. The numbers should not even be close, or similar, really.

Hopefully CoD online will have more numbers post patch. Looking forward to it.

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Well just a friendly example for you... I tried to launch the game seven times before i could take a pic of my "420 bf109". And sometimes it works the first time.

+1 yeah i was thinking that also like im arsed about being ignored. But anyways answer the mans question why are you not playing clod instead of sitting on here?

perhaps for the same reason youre not playing ROF.

Not sure about that. The more people that use the ignore feature and don't see these ridiculous 'he said/she said' arguments the better this place will be. I don't spend my time with people that don't interest me in real life, why should I do it here? With limited time to spend here currently, I would rather not spend it reading pages of public internet arguments between the same 3-4 people. Who would...

Oh SNAP! ;)

And what about the 1.230 views on this post are they not playing clod either?
Seems to me the forum is actualy more fun than the game :)

Well somebody wishing to slander the image of the game would naturally say that.

Yeah, he is about as informative and unbiased as Fox News.

Ever tried hooking up a Warthog HOTAS and CH Rudder Pedals to an iPhone? (Hmmmmm.....maybe you have.....tried, that is)

Bingo!

Funny part is for a guy (fox) who claims to just joined today..

He sure has alot of 'experience' based opinions as to how this forum operates..

I think Ill have to agree with those who think this guy is nothing more than a recently banned troll

I was fully aware of the state of CloD when I bought it. I want to contribute my $ to the eventual success of the sim and hope it achieves everything we all want it to.

'experance ?

ROF wasn't finished either when it was released, and it slowly got much better. COD was released more unfinished, and it will just take alittle longer to get sorted. So the new IL-2 series hasn't ended, its just started. There should be a patch for COD in the coming weeks which should make the sim much more playable for most people. So no the sky isn't falling, and the COD community is thankful for your investment in the new series.

Well i wasnt aware of its faults and i would also like to see it succeed in the future and i am sorry i came across as a so called troll but as a paying customer i still have a right to complain if somthing is not right but i suppose im a cry baby for doing so. :confused:

What problems are you having after 10 mins to make the statement," But after 10 mins with the sim i was far from impressed "

I Know after 10 minutes I still was amazed how great the Graphics looked and the benefits of a clickable cockpit. Also the time that is needed to get your controls right not to mention the realistic engine management system.
Maybe you should put a few hours into the above then make a educated appraisal. Don't get me wrong fox3 there are issues with the game but fortunately they are few and far between for me,touch wood.

Also mate what are your system specs, they would have a effect on performance as well. I could go on but i won't.

There is an old saying in the lucky country down under ... She'll be right mate! .... and it will sooner rather than later. The devs seem to be working hard to make this sim even greater than it already is for me.


regards;)

We'll make a fanboi of you yet! ;)

Over my dead body :)

yes dragon9 i have i decent computer i build my own its just the random ctd that are game breaking imo and always in the heat of things. Then you have to restart the game again join the server and so on its a headache
and it ruins the fun cus it can happen at anytime. I have a core i52500k@4.6ghz 8gig mem win7 64bit nvidia gtx460 yeah i know the gpu is not great but still should be able to run things on normal with no aa. And yes ive turned the epilepsy filter off and cockpit mirror which i also read about but still get random ctd :(

Well he's a fan of ROF, and it wasn't very good when released, so I'm sure in time he will become a fan of the new IL-2 series, just as you certainly will Furbs. ;)

The next patch is supposed to have the CTD issue fixed, along with some AI and FM issues addressed. There will probably be time for atleast one more patch for COD before the Sequels release, as I don't see the Sequel coming out anytime soon. Even the Sequels release will have fixes and new features that will apply to COD aswell. All is not lost, "Yet".

Chivas, when and if it happens you will be the first to know. :)

Hmmmm.............6 pages.

What a fine result.

yes everyone who pays for a product or service has NO RIGHT to complain about that that product or service turns out....

at least this seems to be what most of the fan boys think here...

like the people who say "if you dont write code you have no right to complain about it"

which is no different that someone saying you cant criticize cooking unless you are a chef,

Yet here you are complaining about it......who exactly is stopping you? People are just as entitled to express their opinion if they think you are incorrect.

Fox, I find it incredulous that you never heard about the problems with CoD. I have been disappointed with what’s going on with CloD so I purchased RoF. I’ve been on a few times but, to be honest, it bores me. I’m just patiently waiting for the patch. Whilst waiting I read this forum and have a chuckle at the to and fro arguments.
When flying RoF I watch the comments constantly coming up on screen from those flying. I noticed there was a substantial amount of talk on the issues with CloD. If I, as a newbee on RoF, can see that then you, as a person that is on way more than me, should also see it also.
I can understand mate why people on here are highly suspicious that you are trolling.

Well i can say in my case:
I was a big fan of IL2, first with FB, then PF, then later on 1946.
Had a lot of very enjoyable hours in the previous. Being a big fan, I followed the development of what was originally going to be " Storm of War" I believe, fairly closely. After a while I just got away from it I guess, with time dragging on out.
Then I read it was released as Cliffs of Dover, and I headed over to the forums, including this one.
Then I read all the issues with the original release, so I held off.
Then I read about the patch and some things it fixed, and things it did not. I still held off.

It wasn't until about 5 weeks or so ago, after reading about the next patch being worked on and the performance improvements to come with it, that I took the plunge and purchased it - from Steam - paid full price.

I do not regret it, I have not but maybe 3 hours of actual flying time in it so far, but it ain't all that bad. Granted I am not an online flyer, offline only, and on my system I get relatively decent peformance. I am looking forward to getting more time in it, and the next patch that will hopefully soon be released.

I certainly have no regrets so far - it is quite a beautiful and complex sim.

No surrender, comrade furbs. I too, 'tremble indignation'. We must strenuosly resist the BS artists, porkie pie merchants, and purveyors of abject, unfounded, ebullient nonsense, with teh trusty sword and shield of reasonable, entirely grounded in fact, honesty and truth.

I see that Comrade Tree has fallen once more to the 'Sword of Banocles'. His noble sacrifice is once more duly noted. The truth has many Martyrs. :grin:

Fight the powers that be.

:grin:

:)

Still nice to have Tree back here, don't you think?:cool:

LOL! You people are all crazy, the whole lot of you.

Is that 'code speak' for stepping on one's own schlong? :rolleyes:

wow 2.510 views its been a great success and you have all been great sports btw but until next time this should keep you all going. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkfVd...eature=related

It is sad but true that perhaps the greatest thing to come out of these forums for me is the Trololo song. I've got it on my ipod so if I get the 'are we there yets' from the back seat or white noise from the House Dragon in the passenger seat I can just turn it on and wait.

Once it needed 5 minutes before they begged for mercy.

Apart from that its pretty much been a bust. As to OP, come on , show your face !

Haha think I'll bloody well will try this with my customers and see what turns out.
We do, after all, have a fairly ok social security system here in Sweland.

Fake? really? your reasons are ridiculous man..

I know, paranoia is rife in these forums. :rolleyes:

as well as ignorance, bad manners, petulance, and a complete lack of common sense :)

I prefer the live version you get to pull better faces and have the crowd closer up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK5G_...eature=related

Blind hero worship, gullibility and naivety. :)

You forgot self-righteousness, holier-than-thou-attitudes, illusions of entitlement and more or less pronounced phantasies of control and domination ... ;)

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well, not only birds )

I was laughing at the video btw not the troll. That video cracks me up evertime I see it. :)

Well before we drag him off to the ducking stool and burn him at the stake perhaps he would like to try:-

Resolution 1680x1050 or less
Anti-epliepsy Off
SSAO Off
Vertical Synch On (if screen tearing - or do it in NVCP and also enable triple buffering)
Settings to Medium (with my GPU I start at High) then do the following:-

Customise settings to:-
Buildings Detail Very Low
Forest Off or Very Low
Buildings Amount Low
Grass Off
Shadows Off (I don't do this but try it and see if it helps)

go to :-
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\parts\core\GUI
and Rename Logo.wmv to Logo_bak.wmv (you need to do this after every patch). This file which gives the Ubi logo when you start the game locks some GPUs to a low frequency.

Thanks for the cash, now go back to your favourite flight sim.

wow some of those are the guys who bully me the most

i think i have fun with those arguments :)

rotfl

Oh and btw anybody else agree that Americans are really annoying. Here is a prime example look the name says it all ACE-OF-ACES pfff nowonder your on everybodys ignore list. It really does make me proud to be British :)

Im saying nothing... :)
Though it has nothing to do with being American.

In light of all the others here that have commented on your 'new' handle.. I find it very telling you choose to focus on me.. Welcome back bud! ;)

Yeah maybe i was a little harsh on the dopeboys then im sorry. But i still think ACE-OF-ACES is a toilet.

Trees that grow in the UK appear to be so sensitive to their surroundings ;)

Chivas said:

>>The next patch is supposed to have the CTD issue fixed<<

What! Did I read that correctly!? You said 'supposed' and not 'will'...!?

Ygads, stone the crows, gadzooks!!!

Just for you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyrrTK_xzj4



For he who died, shall live again...

Thanks for the conformation! S!

You need to take off the tin foil hat, its got nothing to do with fox3.

rofl

oh this forum its hilarious

Kinda surprised this hasn't been locked yet.

Din't have to, Tree got banned again

Fixxed that for ya! ;)

Really proud about that ...Aren't you ? Think we are better off with you than Tree ? So who's next on your " shoot and get the whiner banned" list ?
At least with Tree, it was fun to read his posts...And see bullies react like teenagers in a classroom...Too bad he couldn't resist a immature fight...

Fox3 isn't Tree, i know that for a FACT.
I think the Mods pretty much know who he is.

Just think who would be trying to get Tree perm banned by insinuating Fox3 is Tree under a new name.

Its not hard to follow chaps.

I like the pilots which preach here over a year after release, that someday everything will be OK with this simulation.

CoD is not a red wine or a cheese...

Here's some breaking news for you, everyone has wildly different opinions.

I would rather read Ace of Aces posts than Tree_UK's 2000+ whine post personally. But that's just me, I suspect their are people on this forum who are sick off them both or god forbid think Tree_UK is helping everyone's cause. I mean it's been one year since release so he must be doing something right eh?