How many poeple still fly IL-2 1946?
 

I bought IL-2 CloD in the Steam Christmas sale about 3 months ago and haven't looked back since. :-P

And last week, for the first time in about 2 months I fired up the good old IL-2 1946.(Patched to 4.10.1) I was surprised at how dated the graphics looked, and how arcade-like the FM and DM and sound was compared to Clod.
It's weird because before I played Clod for the first time, I didn't notice any of those things about 1946 and thought it was great.

Since as far as I see, almost everybody who has Clod also bought 1946, I'm wondering:

How many Clod owners still actively play 1946?

And to those who don't play 1946:
Did you uninstall it, or do you have it installed but just don't use it anymore?

I agree on your analysis that it's unfortunate how dated IL2 1946 feels now after CloD as it felt so good before. At the other hand, thanks to all the patches over the years it's an amazing product that actually is almost perfect... If we just hadn't seen CloD and realized that it's getting old...

So now we have a teenager with a bit weird proportions, no manners and pimples all over the face while the old beauty is starting to look wrinkled and tired (even though Daidalos has used some new makeup to spice her up). I just hope the teenager blossoms into the beauty that is there. I will still keep on dating her mum so let's hope she doesn't find out ;)

Thinking of that, I think it's time to go knock on the old ladies door tonight while waiting to see if the miracle pimple cream that MG is cooking will be done this week? :)

EDIT: And I miss two alternatives:

* I have both installed but while waiting for the patch I only play IL2
* I have both installed but play none as CloD has made 1946 feel so old and the online CTD bug makes playing CloD impossible so I hang out here wasting time in this forum looking for the Grail patch...

EDIT 2: And I would have voted for the last one if you wouldn't have reminded me of the old lady so tonight I'm off to try some IL2 online :) Thanks for that!

We were in love for many years!
 

Uninstalled:shock:

My new sim is just so much better in the air;)

If I still had my nvidia 7900gs or worse yet the card I started il2 with the 4600ti(the card that il2 killed lol) I might not be so giddy though.

I'm still playing 46 both as modded version and vanilla 4.11 as well as CloD. Until the problems with CLoD get sorted I'm getting more pleasure from 46. Have just installed RoF and have still to get to grips with the set up on this but there are things that I don't like about that at the moment either, maybe that will change when I have the controls fully sorted.

Rick

Mmm, those where the days... Amazingly enough I remember the GPU I first played IL2 on and it was an Nvidia Geforce 2 Ultra... Bleeding edge by then so I had none of the bad performance that many whined about then... Full circle then as a GTX580 is needed to enjoy CloD today :)

EDIT: Looking back in my rig-list I realize I did not remember it correctly as I swapped my Geforce 2 Ultra for a Geforce 3 in may 2001...

Option 3. Still have il2 installed, but fly only CoD now. Can't go back.

I tried it again when I was having problems with Clod, it was then I realized there's no going back to it...long live CEM! :)

The first choice covers that. ;)

Good one! I wish I could add that to the poll because it is many peoples experience, but It wont let me edit it now. :-|


And clickable cockpits! :grin:

I bought Clod back in November. 6 hours played.

You can probably multiply that number by 10 when it comes down to 1946.

Especially since I installed HSFX 5.0, whoa, I (almost) rediscovered it.

Clod has potential. Sure. But that's it, only potential.

1946 + Mods is still, by far, the best. Of course, on some points Clod is better. But those points don't weight a lot compared to the overall superiority of IL-2 46.

All of my "flying" friends (and there's a lot of them) have been playing 1946 and / or RoF since they bought Clod. Technical flaws put aside, there's simply a huge gap of content between the two games (not totally blaming Clod, IL-2 1946 has been there for much more time, obviously).

Added the option for you.

Thank you. :)

Cliffs only. I fired up 1946 for a quick mission a while back and shot down five 109s without my spit running out of ammo. The FMs and DMs are too simple compared to CoD for me to enjoy any more.

its a 75-25, for 1946. im REALLY trying to change ofr COD, but having a hard time , needs a PATCH :(

in 2 weeks internal SEOW will be over and i thtats the last ill have of 1946 as a simulator ( i will still play it for the lolz every now and then off course ), im hopping by then CLOD will be working,

Bought COd the first day it was available here, then played it a lot first days, but went back to Il2 full time. I checked out COD again and again when new patches arrived but the time between checks gets longer and longer (didnt look at it for months now). I have great fun playing Il2 1946 4.11.

Uninstalled three different installations of 1946, plus one installation of Forgotten Battles.

Sad, but true. The Old Girl just can't hack it anymore. :(

I voted for just Il21946 but i do have a go on CLOd once a month until it crashes etc.

Same for me Tree, played on Sunday night and was having quite a good time until it crashed 2 times in 40 mins, so gave up.

Missing an option.
I bought CoD, played it a bit, then removed it.
It's a fraking train wreck, and DBW is sooooooooooo much better in near every regard.
Simply no reason to play CoD.

I have 1946 still installed but haven't played since moving to CoD.

Poll is missing: never had a previous IL-2 game before CoD / CoD stole my (flight sim) virginity

I can't play 46 anymore. It's like an arcade game in comparison. Add those 10 year old graphics on top of it and yuck.

basicly i stoped playing when i bought a set up that could run RoF at max settings, when i flew RoF first time at max then switch back to 1946 to fly with my squad realize how dated 1946 is and when i pre order and then download CloD never even with all the problems and frustration the first months of CloD were, never play 1946 again and then reinstalled windows and not even think on install 1946 again

What you said in your post is true. Its the natural progression of all things. In with the new and people will adopt. You cant prevent it.

Mazex
 

lol! Thought Mazex (post 2) nailed it!

The old girl has all the bells and whistles and if it wasn't for the promise of youth (even with all its pimples!) we would be still singing her praises. But after sampling the new it is hard to go back.

Sure, the youth requires you to have youthful hardware, old guys need not apply - they just can't cut it. So for the old guys stick to 46.

Plenty of 46 admirers still out there and it will probably always have some sort of life in our squad events. Let's hope the next patch will do the business and sort out the blemishes.

Option 3 here...

still playing

almost exclusively 1946 for me, variety of planes and smooth reliable performance online are the clinchers.

Hardware isn't even the issue.
The issue is that the younger girl looks really, REALLY good from a distance.
Then you get up close and see that she has a club foot, a glass eye, summerteeth (some 'er here and some 'er there), is missing a few fingers from a tragic mill accident and is 6 months pregnant.

makes the older model look much better.

Now that you got really wrong!

When you come close you see a bad case of acne, really weird glasses, piercings, ugly clothes and a colorful punk hairstyle.

But then, that is all temporary and mended soon, and in a few months her even better looking sister is coming to live together with her... and you, if you are man enough and stop yammering :D :D :D

'fraid were going to have to agree to disagree.
She looks like a paraplegic to me.
Not interested!

S!

Still play Il-2 1946 because of SEOWs and the War-Birds_FH server. CloD needs a bit of work until we can fully migrate. But I play it to test all the nice things in it.

I only play IL-2 1946 because I think Cliffs of Dover is too incomplete and I've uninstalled it also. My favourite mod for IL-2 1946 is HFSX.

Option 4 for me,


after a hard fight with myself, i decided to unistall 1946. CLOD is for me the better sim for the future, and after playing it more than 10 years it was time to say goodbye.


Hopefully in the next weeks we will get the new patch for CLOD and then maybe it rocks.:shock:

Over and out:razz:

COD for me. 1946 is like an old hooker, she knows all the tricks but is a bit loose and easy.

I don`t play IL2 : 1946 since 2007 when the game code got cracked. If that didn`t happen I`d probably be still playing. Since then I did a few offline skirmishes and graphics did not feel that outdated. The experience is still very satisfying. However, I`m an an onliner, so CloD coops is what I`m waiting to happen. Anything else doesn`t really satisfy me as it is not worth spending gaming time which I have always shortage of.

Sometimes I jump in my Gustav and fly just for the flying, reminicing good ole times, imagining how awesome the CloD Gustav will be one day.Eitherway, 1946 is the single last game I`d ever delete from my hard drive.

Waiting for East Front, better game engine, and, here: where i will buy that sim?:(

I got CloD the day of release and despite my decent mid range PC, was getting only 3FPS on low settings. After about 30 seconds, CloD would CTD. A couple months later, after some patches, I tried it again with the exact same results.
I would love to fly CloD but find myself still enjoying '46.

IL2 1946 CooP missions.

CoD has no real content, for me its just a dogfight game, boring.

I have tried to be faithful .................... but IL2 1946 just works in all areas,
especially altitude bombing and mud moving.





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I do far more modding than playing, however I kept it just for the fact that it now has the Jetwar pack and many other modern aircraft, modelled and simulated quite well for this old sim. I no longer fly the other aircraft, CoD is just too realistic in comparison and I can never go back to flying spitfires or 109's in 1946.

+1....but I prefer Up3.0 ;)

My hardware it's little to play Il2 Clod with framerate (X4+Xfire+8gb ram)
I'm waiting new graphic engine...

This.

At the moment i'm flying in a SEOW, and in an internal squad North Africa event, and nothing in CLOD comes close to this as an online experience imo, plus of course regular CO-OP nights.

Dogfight servers just don't hold any interest for me. Period.

Waiting for CLOD to offer a better online experience.

* I have both installed but while waiting for the patch I only play IL2
* I have both installed but play none as CloD has made 1946 feel so old and the online CTD bug makes playing CloD impossible so I hang out here wasting time in this forum looking for the Grail patch...

+1

I have both & play both...My future heart is with CloD, but slower than desired FPS ,small fire effects ( that also kill FPS) non working utilities in the game ( RT etc.,) & just plane bad FM AI prevents me from giving my heart away .Still I have 1100 hours on it ( in easy idiot mode) & like it alot.The eye candy is to die for!
I play Il-2 almost equally using Dark Blue World install, with all cockpits modded ( esp the 109's,110s & 190's to perfect) and find it terrific to play esp to get away from the English Channel map for a bit, to lands exotic & carrier ops etc. I find flying here with the new & improved verions of FM,AI, Maps ,effects to still be a terric experience & once one can't stop smiling!
That being said I look forward to a new patch & seeing if I need to drop more money on a more up to date graphics card,and of course to the Battle of Moscow add on as well.It took 10 years for Il-2 to get as good as it did & it really didn't explode until 3rd party modders got their hands on it about 2-3 years ago...Perhaps it will be the same here as well?
Potential - a blessing & a curse!

From the activity levels here and on M4T, as well as comparing online numbers for HL and Steam, 1946 is still far more popular by far.

I have both, IL2 gets most of the attention.

Only playing iL2 1946,I have CLoD installed but waiting for the patch ,then it will depend on bugs getting fixed .
Lack of a decent Coop GUI might leave me out of play as the people I normaly fly with are not interested in the game until this gets fixed too.

I have only IL2 1946 and play it regulary

I have both, play both. 1946 with UP3 and DBW. Superb.

I have yet to buy CloD, it's currently £38.80 to £39.95 on Amazon.co.uk, which is too much for its alleged current state.

So I'm 1946 only, but not with an "I bought CloD" attached to that.

It's less that £20 for the collectors edition from the ubishop.

I have '46 installed, not played it since CoD came out though.

£14.99, direct from Ubi.

Cliffs of Dover only. Once the patch is completed and released you can start reading the last rights to the old one.

I'll definitely get back to CloD when the new patch comes out. For now, the Steam account is seeing really little action.

Its been said before, and hasn't happened yet.
Will believe it when I see it.

Its a bit like the wife really, I don't play with it much any more but I don't have the heart to get rid of it.

I can see a lot of people who have uninstalled it having to put it back on if CoD isn't fixed. There is only so much spinning round in a 109 or Hurri that you can do. IL2 has the benefit of years of development behind it and all the diversity that comes with that.

For online its RoF for me but thats mainly down to my squad. We don't fly CoD, its either RoF or IL2.

Honestly, While I own both, I flew IL-2 COD for about a week after it was first released. Loved the graphics, couldn't stand the lack of a dynamic campaign. I haven't flown it since. 3 months later I uninstalled it from my computer and while I keep touch with where the game is currently, I"m probably not going to give it another shot till there is some kind of Dynamic Campaign.

My squad and I fly a DCG co-op campaign in IL-2 1946, modded with the Ultra Pack 2.01, and are looking to possibly transition to Dark Blue World soonish. The important thing to me is a customizable dynamic campaign. When I can get that in IL-2 COD, I'll look to have us make the move to that, and probably not before.

If they deliver on the patch and the fame rate is increased there will be no tearing me away from cod. IL-2 graphics to dated for me and COD feels like I'm flying through sticky toffee. I don't play either, but the patch might change that.

I fly CloD exclusively since...well I'm not sure actually. With that said, I don't think just a performance patch will make CloD surpass 1946, you are forgetting all of the content and working functionality in 1946, I think that is what is holding back players and squads more than anything. It's just a theory.

ROTFL!


As you say, as well as the obvious performance/ bug fixes, COD definitely needs more content, Maps planes, land/sea objects and vehicles.

Hey! Maybe we can convince them to make a Eastern Front sim! That would be cool! ;)

It all changes when you get to play missions. When tactics and big formations come into play, things become all the more interesting. A Hurri can cause carnage among both 109 and Ju88/87, it just needs its historical background, like starting at altitude, being guided by radar, having Spitfire squads patrolling the sky nearby. Just like the Me110 which is quite sluggish, but can be used to staggering effects once it is placed in the right circumstances.

CloD just doesn`t have MP functionality. Get me 5 types of patrolling/escorting/bomber busting missions over the La Manche and I`ll fly them 100 times just like I did over Smolensk.

- 1946 with HSFX for SEOW and other online wars with my squad (6S)
- 1946 with UP3 with my squad mates to have some quick fun in DF servers such as Zeke or Spit
- CloD, mostly alone, because only a couple of squad mates can/want play with it.

The problems retaining my squad mates from passing to CloD are mainly:

1. defective FMs (stall, dynamic stall, ceilings, G limits)
2. lack of multiplayer content (call it coop or whatever)
3. low performances even with good machines = low settings needed

Cheers,
Ins