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Nitrous 12-19-2011 12:38 PM

What would you like next?
 
Please vote

Foo'bar 12-19-2011 01:12 PM

Northern Africa theatre.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

pupaxx 12-19-2011 01:26 PM

BoM just if this means more flyables and dynamic weather, and obviously a merged version in CloD! why to choose?
Cheers

xpzorg 12-19-2011 01:27 PM

Very funny voting, try it in sukhoi forum and compare results:)

reaver 12-19-2011 01:36 PM

i don't understand why do they plan operation barbarossa next. There were so many interesting air battles before and after battle of Britain.There were Norwegian campaign , battles for Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Belgium and France. Yet they choose BoB , most massive air battle imaginable , even when they knew their optimization was catastrophic. I suspect marketing was behind this.

Blast them fools !

Bewolf 12-19-2011 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaver (Post 371356)
i don't understand why do they plan operation barbarossa next. There were so many interesting air battles before and after battle of Britain.There were Norwegian campaign , battles for Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Belgium and France. Yet they choose BoB , most massive air battle imaginable , even when they knew their optimization was catastrophic. I suspect marketing was behind this.

Blast them fools !

Russian developer, russian market. Makes sense and I can live with blasting I16s and having fun with some IL2 mud moving. Gives the Name of the series some substance.

However, I agree that a Battle for France scenario would be great.

_12F_i-jeanm 12-19-2011 03:52 PM

With I-16 on TB-3, it will also mean the restart of races :).

Sokol1 12-19-2011 05:33 PM

BoM - I want to fly in IL-2 with CloD CEM. :)

Sokol1

robtek 12-19-2011 06:30 PM

You guys do realize that for BoM not even a timetable exists?

Are you really willing to wait that long without new content?

pupo162 12-19-2011 07:24 PM

well if i really had to choose one as if morpheus was giving me 2 pills, i would choose BOM.

other than that this poll is rather silly.

jg27_mc 12-19-2011 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foo'bar (Post 371352)
Northern Africa theatre.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

+1 or BoF (Battle of France)

PS: Voted option 1 (Wellington and Beaufighter for BoB Theatre).

furbs 12-19-2011 07:48 PM

What do i want next?
A working Battle of Britain sim please.

6BL Bird-Dog 12-19-2011 10:29 PM

1.An update on progress of the next patch or a pre-Christmas release.:grin:
2.A new Coop Gui for Cliffs of Dover.:rolleyes:
3.Bau and Wellie flyable.:cool:
4.Armed RN Naval escorts for channel Convoys.:grin:
5.Pre-release News and screenies of the BoM .:-P
6.Caribou lined flight gear for the open pit i-16 in the above. ;)
7.To wish the 1c team and all forum members Happy Holidays for the up and coming festive season.:arrow:Salute.

zakkandrachoff 12-19-2011 10:51 PM

1) Battle for Moscow please!

2) Blitzkrieg: Armée de l'Air and low Countries

3) Continuation War

4) Afrika Korps

5) Stalingrad

6) Blitzkrieg: Poland

WeReLex 12-19-2011 11:34 PM

Of course BoM... :)
Winter War and The Siege of Leningrad
Spain
Afrika

RazzyMan 12-20-2011 01:16 AM

Halifax & Lancaster
 
I would like a flyable Halifax and Lancaster and even perhaps a Lincoln (like my Dad used to fly) :grin:

ElAurens 12-20-2011 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foo'bar (Post 371352)
Northern Africa theatre.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

^ This.

Fossil-Goz 12-20-2011 01:44 AM

+1 Wimpy and the Beau

Had to vote Wimpy as my father flew the Wellington in OTU before moving onto the Lanc. I'd like to re-enact his safe belly landing of the Wimpy at New Market.

Verhängnis 12-20-2011 02:22 AM

Schneider Trophy Racing!

..
Oh sorry, wrong forum.. :confused:
..

But nah, when you put the poll like that and when my computer can't even render a Wellington, with resources to spare, I have no interest to fly the Beaufighter.
So if anything I'd rather have an Me-108 & CR-42 cockpit but if I can't get those then I'd just take BoM because atleast I'll get new maps, aircraft, objects and problems.

Heliocon 12-20-2011 04:49 AM

The game I thought I was buying?
If they release the Russian theatre and the fixes/improvements arent applied to CLOD I will never buy a 1c game again imo. Its like advertising a furnished house sale which you find out is missing most of the furnishing (because a couch and a window blind counts as furnishing) and has no aircon or insulation. Then they tell you it will be fixed in time... it isnt and they then tell you not to worry because another new house up the road was just completed and this time it will have everything they promised in it... (and they used the money from the previous purchase to build the new house with lol).

Pluto 12-20-2011 09:10 AM

... none of the ones to chose from, ...
 
... I´d like to have a fully working "Cliffs of Dover" with all the features that were supposed to be in the sim, a sim that is running smooth with no crashes in multiplayer and warping and suddenly disappearing planes online.
With decent ships, destroyers, battleships, moving weather etc. ...

Before that does not work, it is useless to ask me for the next expansion but I guess they will again find enough fools who will buy the next "masterpiece" from the same makers without hesitating.

Right ?

:mrgreen:

ingsoc84 12-20-2011 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pluto (Post 371592)
... I´d like to have a fully working "Cliffs of Dover" with all the features that were supposed to be in the sim, a sim that is running smooth with no crashes in multiplayer and warping and suddenly disappearing planes online.
With decent ships, destroyers, battleships, moving weather etc. ...

Before that does not work, it is useless to ask me for the next expansion but I guess they will again find enough fools who will buy the next "masterpiece" from the same makers without hesitating.

Right ?

:mrgreen:

100% right.what the use is a new "Wellington" if the thing still performs like a duck?

ingsoc84 12-20-2011 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heliocon (Post 371534)
The game I thought I was buying?
If they release the Russian theatre and the fixes/improvements arent applied to CLOD I will never buy a 1c game again imo. Its like advertising a furnished house sale which you find out is missing most of the furnishing (because a couch and a window blind counts as furnishing) and has no aircon or insulation. Then they tell you it will be fixed in time... it isnt and they then tell you not to worry because another new house up the road was just completed and this time it will have everything they promised in it... (and they used the money from the previous purchase to build the new house with lol).


Gotta agree with all that..I've been downloading lots of new skins..they look wonderful..the one thing that is right is the community members are stepping up to the plate and really making some nice things...but..its just a new dust jacket on the same book.I want the book to read well...and not have pages missing. But.I should stop...it's getting old...and its becoming a waste of time to read and write this stuff...

335th_GRSwaty 12-20-2011 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foo'bar (Post 371352)
Northern Africa theatre.

+1

regen70 12-20-2011 11:20 AM

If the developers could provide a range of dynamic (or even linear) campaigns as in the previous IL-2s, I think I could live with CoD's current shortcomings. Having completed the sparse 'campaigns' included in the package, I have more or less stopped playing CoD as I find flying single missions uninvolving and the third party campaigns seem to entail flying what is essentially the same mission over and over again.

carguy_ 12-20-2011 11:25 AM

Afrika. No buildings, so no stutters ;)

159th_Jester 12-20-2011 12:20 PM

It seems a pity, after putting so much work into the Channel map, to abandon it in the first expansion and head back to Russia so soon. 1C could have got a quick cash injection by leaving the main map as is (or perhaps populating France a little more) and simply producing a 1941 plane set.

This would have provided some interesting battles such as the Bf-109F becoming outclassed when the SpitfireV was introduced.... And that in it's turn becoming outclassed with the introduction of the FW-190A.

The Med would have been a great add on as well.


I just hope that, after the Battle for Moscow expansion, 1C consider returning to the Western front (and maybe the Med).

chiefrr73 12-20-2011 05:00 PM

Thumbs down ... none of the ones to chose from, ...
... I´d like to have a fully working "Cliffs of Dover" with all the features that were supposed to be in the sim, a sim that is running smooth with no crashes in multiplayer and warping and suddenly disappearing planes online.
With decent ships, destroyers, battleships, moving weather etc. ...

Before that does not work, it is useless to ask me for the next expansion but I guess they will again find enough fools who will buy the next "masterpiece" from the same makers without hesitating.

Right ?


I couldnt say it better

smink1701 12-20-2011 05:12 PM

Anything that includes a P-51.

ACE-OF-ACES 12-20-2011 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 159th_Jester (Post 371627)
It seems a pity, after putting so much work into the Channel map, to abandon it in the first expansion and head back to Russia so soon.

Did I miss the post where Luither said the sequal would not include the channel map?

If so could you give me the link?

Because until I see him clearly state that I would find it hard to belive that they would not include the channel map..

Based on 1C's track record with IL-2 where each sequal included all the maps, planes, etc from the previous versions

159th_Jester 12-20-2011 05:29 PM

AoA, you miss my point. Read the rest of my post again (the part about using the same map to create an expansion by having a planeset from 1941 etc).

I know they won't remove the map (how could they if CoD and the BfM expansion are going to merged?)

ACE-OF-ACES 12-20-2011 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 159th_Jester (Post 371699)
AoA, you miss my point. Read the rest of my post again (the part about using the same map to create an expansion by having a planeset from 1941 etc).

I know they won't remove the map (how could they if CoD and the BfM expansion are going to merged?)

So there is no post/quote by Luither stating the channel map will not be included in the sequal? Wheeeuuu that is good news! Sorry if I missunderstood your post! S!

159th_Jester 12-20-2011 05:50 PM

No worries AoA...... I just re-read my earlier post and I can see how it could have been a bit ambiguous.

What I was trying to say was that 1C could have made a whole new expansion whilst using the same map (whereas the Russian expansion means they had to take the time to make not only a new planeset, but a new map as well). The idea being that this could have left them able to release a new add on (and so get a cash injection) quicker.

ingsoc84 12-20-2011 10:39 PM

A Med/North Africa Theater of war would be really awesome...if things work out the way they should..I'd buy one if it were made...and Russia too.

RickRuski 12-21-2011 01:44 AM

I would like to see the problems that are still obvious with this sim fixed before any further additions. Lets hope that the team will get their priorities right and get the damage that is developing under control before the whole C.O.D series crashes and burns. There won't be too many loyal IL2 series fans that will be prepared to fork out for any additions unless they can be sure it will work as promised, that includes performance on advertised min spec systems, what a joke. If there is an add on Moscow is my choice.

BTW I've gone back to 46, at least that works thanks to the mods.

Rick

Katana1000S 12-21-2011 02:04 AM

Wellington and Beaufighter

Also, fix as much as can be fixed in the current sim before even thinking about adding more content, aircraft or theatre wise ... please.

ingsoc84 12-21-2011 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickRuski (Post 371810)
I would like to see the problems that are still obvious with this sim fixed before any further additions. Lets hope that the team will get their priorities right and get the damage that is developing under control before the whole C.O.D series crashes and burns. There won't be too many loyal IL2 series fans that will be prepared to fork out for any additions unless they can be sure it will work as promised, that includes performance on advertised min spec systems, what a joke.

BTW I've gone back to 46, at least that works thanks to the mods

Rick

Makes more sense then about anything I've read today. However, you are running the risk of being banned here for conduct which may be termed a rant...I have been told my less than enthusiastic support of the game in its current state is not acceptable. Either that, or my spelling needs to improve. If I don't improve my spelling soon, I'll probably get sent home from school with a note to my parents. I still wont go out and buy anything else in the IL2 series until they clean up this mess.
I probably will go back to IL2 FB...that legacy game played/plays well. Oh the times they have a changed.

RickRuski 12-21-2011 08:00 AM

One thing that the 'Team" seems to have right is the aircraft involved for this period. See this site: -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraf...itish_fighters

I think Ingsoc84 that what appears to be rants are frustrations by many who hear very little from the team. It would be nice to hear news once a week even if it is bad but they are working to correct it.

Rick

JG5_emil 12-21-2011 08:04 AM

Fix the crashes!

Katana1000S 12-21-2011 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG5_emil (Post 371871)
Fix the crashes!

Fix the updates .. Being left in dark is no fun.

Pluto 12-21-2011 10:53 AM

...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robtek (Post 371426)
You guys do realize that for BoM not even a timetable exists?

Are you really willing to wait that long without new content?

... no way ! ! ! I feel already with this content twitted ! ! ! They must be half-witted if they think that anyone will buy another expansion of this sim if the first one is not even fixed and working as it should!

"Buy our next sim if you want CloD fixed and working",
how crazy is that?

Someone should give them a nice kick in their butts in order to wake them up I guess! (now ban me from the forum if you feel like, I dont care,...)
:evil:

Osprey 12-21-2011 05:06 PM

lol. Check out all of the 109 drivers voting for BfM. Anything to get their hands on a later model 109.

rga 12-21-2011 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osprey (Post 371984)
lol. Check out all of the 109 drivers voting for BfM. Anything to get their hands on a later model 109.


Not quite. I voted for BoM because of the legendary MiG-3. The fastest fighter in the world in 1940. Nuff said.

And furthermore, BoM is a much much more reasonable choice than Beaufighter and Wellington. Don't take me wrong, I would happily pay for an extra patch of Wellington alone, but CloD simply lacks the proper enviroment for night bomber. No radio navigation, no onboard navigator, no city black-out at night and AFAIK no high-alt air stream that would throw you off-course (yet). The existing CloD features are much more suitable for the simple gameplay of the Eastern Front: no fancy electronics, just man and machine.

Sven 12-21-2011 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rga (Post 371992)
Not quite. I voted for BoM because of the legendary MiG-3. The fastest fighter in the world in 1940. Nuff said.

And furthermore, BoM is a much much more reasonable choice than Beaufighter and Wellington. Don't take me wrong, I would happily pay for an extra patch of Wellington alone, but CloD simply lacks the proper enviroment for night bomber. No radio navigation, no onboard navigator, no city black-out at night and AFAIK no high-alt air stream that would throw you off-course (yet). The existing CloD features are much more suitable for the simple gameplay of the Eastern Front: no fancy electronics, just man and machine.

I have to agree with that, I see little to no use for those planes in the Battle of Britain. The planes we already have are perfectly suitable to do the BoB with.
I like the ground warfare of the BfM scenario, combined with the Sturmovik and the Stuka it's going to be paradise for me.

He111 12-22-2011 12:11 PM

Whimpy! .. and Beaui! .. and Deffy! .. and Lysandi! .. and Battlei! etc etc .. not to forget Battle for Franceiiis! (could the french airforce have done a 'finest hour' if the germans hadn't broken through?)

I'm willing to pay for these.

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JG5_emil 12-22-2011 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katana1000S (Post 371883)
Fix the updates .. Being left in dark is no fun.

Too bloody right!

I've been as patient as possible and could have even been called a fanboy at one point as I was convinced things would come right in the end. Just before the last two betas I felt it stable enough for me to buy a new system.

Now since the betas these crashes make the game unplayable for me apart from dogfight servers. I've spend over £2000 for nothing.

I don't want to here about another bloody Russian front sim, I waited for years and years for a IL2 BOB sim and I feel like by the time the sim is working everyone will move on the BOM leaving CLOD in the dust.

All I want is to be able to play CLOD the way it was meant for a year or two before everyone migrates onto another front.

GOZR 12-22-2011 09:29 PM

Battle of France and Russia's battles

BOB an other time !

MD_Titus 12-22-2011 09:31 PM

two planes or a bunch of russian jobs?

no contest

gimme an i-16

No1 Cheese 12-22-2011 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG5_emil (Post 372248)
Too bloody right!

I've been as patient as possible and could have even been called a fanboy at one point as I was convinced things would come right in the end. Just before the last two betas I felt it stable enough for me to buy a new system.

Now since the betas these crashes make the game unplayable for me apart from dogfight servers. I've spend over £2000 for nothing.

I don't want to here about another bloody Russian front sim, I waited for years and years for a IL2 BOB sim and I feel like by the time the sim is working everyone will move on the BOM leaving CLOD in the dust.

All I want is to be able to play CLOD the way it was meant for a year or two before everyone migrates onto another front.

OH mate HERE HERE
After all this time i have spent hours and hours playing the game,i love it,when it works but it just dont work!!!

I fly with Tangmere Pilots and we was hoping to convert to CloD to carry on our Campaign.
It is brilliant and lovely in so many ways but its just as bad as it is good in as many ways.
We cant fly the Channel map online(unless we(i)make a coop that works in d/f,the other maps are crap so whats te point!!!!
We have 48 + members who turn up to fly online on a sunday night and have some of the best mission builders there are BUT although 95% of us have it there are only 6-7 of us that perservere with the game,and im one of them.
Scrypts,i cant work scrypts to make a simple coop,everything about this game is hard work!!!!

Dont slate me gents!! i still think its brilliant and looks great,FMB is fantastic but you got to admit its hard bloody work???

And we dont get nothing from devs saying it WILL work.

Dont mean to sound offish but bloody hell,i just spent 5+ hrs making sure a coop(well dogfight) worked and it wents tits up,worked off line!!!!!

Come on all we are asking for is a bit of feed back to your loyal customers.

No1 Cheese

No1 Cheese 12-22-2011 09:46 PM

Sorry didnt mean to hi jack the thread,would love a Whirlwind,but wont ever happen.

Cheese

He111 12-22-2011 10:01 PM

I've heard that 3rd Party modders will be allowed to produce planes that 1C won't be doing ... so if 1C are doing BOM, where are these 3rd Party modders to complete ClOD??

Shopping list .. Dear Santa ..

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LoBiSoMeM 12-22-2011 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foo'bar (Post 371352)
Northern Africa theatre.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Too.

robtek 12-22-2011 11:01 PM

Just wait until the SDK is released, i am shure there are some 3d-modelers who only have to adapt their models.

jamesdietz 12-22-2011 11:29 PM

First I'd like everything to work with CloD ,a faster FPS for everyone & then all the aircraft in the Sim to be flyable + other aircraft available to Germany & Britain in 1940....perhaps a French map as well.

Richie 12-23-2011 08:07 AM

Get Battle Of Moscow over with so we can do the Mediterranean. I don't want to go backwards.

IceFire 12-23-2011 06:19 PM

Keep things rolling along... Battle for Moscow next makes sense. It will ground the series in the original IL-2 title and give us the very different (and very interesting) eastern front theater again. Then... I very much want to see North Africa and Italy. It hasn't been done properly in a major sim release before and I really want to see that.

As for the Beaufighter and Wellington. Well... both are major types... future games should definitely see their flyable status arrive. North Africa is a place where a flyable Wellington could make an appearance.

Tavingon 12-23-2011 08:32 PM

More planes! There are unfinished ones lurking in the code..

Osprey 12-24-2011 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesdietz (Post 372348)
First I'd like everything to work with CloD ,a faster FPS for everyone & then all the aircraft in the Sim to be flyable + other aircraft available to Germany & Britain in 1940....perhaps a French map as well.

http://www.badgehabit.com/images/I%2...20of%20fun.jpg

Osprey 12-24-2011 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rga (Post 371992)
Not quite. I voted for BoM because of the legendary MiG-3. The fastest fighter in the world in 1940. Nuff said.

Legendary?
That would be the one that used the AM-35/38 engines which were required elsewhere for bombers and so it had the plug pulled on it. A waste of programming resource on an obscure and hardly used type.

MD_Titus 12-24-2011 02:49 PM

seems i won't have to put pictures of my red weeping face on the interweb after all :)

ElAurens 12-24-2011 03:15 PM

The Mig 3's demise had a lot more to do with Uncle Joe and politial cronieism than demand for engines in other airframes.

Be sure.

Snuff_Pidgeon 12-28-2011 03:57 AM

north africa!!

Mysticpuma 12-28-2011 07:53 AM

I'd like next;

IL2:1946 with the textures and DM of CloD.

I'd never play another game ;)

Chivas 12-28-2011 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma (Post 374010)
I'd like next;

IL2:1946 with the textures and DM of CloD.

I'd never play another game ;)

Your going to have much more than that, but its going to take atleast another ten+plus years of free patches, paid addons, and community mods.

KG26_Alpha 12-28-2011 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foo'bar (Post 371352)
Northern Africa theatre.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Yup

I voted for this against Pacific Fighters when the vote went in at the UbiZoo years ago.

IIRC Oleg want the NA campaign also !!!

Luthier got the job with PF though............... :rolleyes:

Lets hope we get the Med under the new IL2 module system


:)




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Tavingon 12-28-2011 08:45 PM

What would I like next? Some kind of mini patch, anything to add more lustre to the game.

zakkandrachoff 12-28-2011 10:17 PM

Moscow!, and Odessa and Crimea 1941 too, put that map too:-P

15.Span_Valalo 12-28-2011 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff (Post 374222)
Moscow!, and Odessa and Crimea 1941 too, put that map too:-P

+1

Insuber 12-28-2011 11:59 PM

North Africa, Crete and Malta ... I voted too against Pacific at that time ... many years ago in the Ubi forum.

Chivas 12-29-2011 01:03 AM

BOB was a good place to start as its a relatively small map, in a well known theater, early in the war. I had hoped the Med would be next, but it appears it will be BfM, along with patches for the unfinished BOB.

I originally assumed that the BfM was a third party addon as it has been in the works long before the release of COD. Because of the problems developing COD, and dropping the Korean addon to bring in Luthiers team to help finish COD, they may have also combined the BfM team aswell. With the work still required to finish BOB they definitely need a quick influx of cash from a sequel as soon as possible.

If the game engine is completed, working well, and vastly improves COD and the sequel, then the development should be well on their way to many years of addons. The work they are doing now and the support they recieve is critical, or they will fold.

If they succeed we should see.
A number of theaters maps including necessary aircraft.
I can see a Malta map, including Sicily, and the Coast of Tunisa/Libya.
A few more Eastern Front Maps
More than a few Pacific Island maps
A large Western Front Bombing Campaign map if furture average computer are strong enough for a large detailed map with many cities.

We will also see some third party maps and aircraft including.
French and Polish Campaigns were in the works many years ago and could be revived.
Other small theater maps along with fantasy island maps

Eventually because the game engine was developed to include control of tanks, ships etc we could see a World Wide Combined Forces Map, or smaller combined forces maps depending the capability of future computers.

if the series survives it will eventually be far greater and more detailed than anything we've seen from IL-1946 mods included.

tarks 12-29-2011 03:06 AM

The ability to make maps / islands more then anything. All this other stuff can modded into it then.

Chivas 12-29-2011 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesehawk (Post 374261)
Not to be rude, but where did it ever mention that Moscow was going to be a 3rd party expansion? The only 3rd party ware I know of is Deasastersoft's. Also, where did they fold in these 3rd party developers?


Luthier was the lead developer of a third party addon for the Korean theater using the new IL-2 engine. Luthier and his team dropped work on the Korean addon to help Oleg finish COD, and Oleg eventually made Luthier the front man while he pursued other interests.

There were large banners announcing the Battle for Moscow at Russian Expo that was also highlighting COD months before COD's release. I assumed at the time it was going to be third party addon as the developers were still working hard on COD, but its quite conceivable that the map, object, and aircraft modellers had finished and were available for the next sequel long before COD was finished. COD's troubles aren't map, object, or aircraft models related. The Battle for Moscow development team is all speculation on my part.

archer11 12-29-2011 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smink1701 (Post 371695)
Anything that includes a P-51.

Sorry, I normally do not correct people, but you spelled FW 190 wrong. ;)

Heliocon 12-31-2011 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chivas (Post 374317)
Luthier was the lead developer of a third party addon for the Korean theater using the new IL-2 engine. Luthier and his team dropped work on the Korean addon to help Oleg finish COD, and Oleg eventually made Luthier the front man while he pursued other interests.

There were large banners announcing the Battle for Moscow at Russian Expo that was also highlighting COD months before COD's release. I assumed at the time it was going to be third party addon as the developers were still working hard on COD, but its quite conceivable that the map, object, and aircraft modellers had finished and were available for the next sequel long before COD was finished. COD's troubles aren't map, object, or aircraft models related. The Battle for Moscow development team is all speculation on my part.

A new engine though would mean they probably need to put more work into the older models for lighting/shading and LOD change reasons.


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