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ATAG_Bliss 11-16-2011 03:51 PM

ATAG stats are up
 
Hi all,

We are now running stats on the server that will communatively track your air kills, ground kills, ship kills etc. You can see the stats section under the homepage of the forum link in my sig. Bomber and fighter folks will finally have some sort of credit. The plan is to reset the stats at the beginning of every month. We also have a few variables that can be changed or added etc. It's very early days, but I think it's a good start.

Good luck and have fun!

KG26_Alpha 11-16-2011 04:19 PM

Nice work

Any chance of the script :)

Gollum 11-16-2011 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss (Post 362098)
Hi all,

We are now running stats on the server that will communatively track your air kills, ground kills, ship kills etc. You can see the stats section under the homepage of the forum link in my sig. Bomber and fighter folks will finally have some sort of credit. The plan is to reset the stats at the beginning of every month. We also have a few variables that can be changed or added etc. It's very early days, but I think it's a good start.

Good luck and have fun!

RANKS RANKS RANKS RANKS RANKS!!!!

Instead of setting resets to monthly can you set resets on pilot deaths?

If your pilot dies you loose all stats?

Would make it realistic to want to survive the flight back home and give the bail out command a purpose.

Maybe eventually a rank system?

hooooooooo

David198502 11-16-2011 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gollum (Post 362107)
ranks ranks ranks ranks ranks!!!!

Instead of setting resets to monthly can you set resets on pilot deaths?

If your pilot dies you loose all stats?

Would make it realistic to want to survive the flight back home and give the bail out command a purpose.

Maybe eventually a rank system?

Hooooooooo

+10000

jg27_mc 11-16-2011 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss (Post 362098)
Hi all,

We are now running stats on the server that will communatively track your air kills, ground kills, ship kills etc. You can see the stats section under the homepage of the forum link in my sig. Bomber and fighter folks will finally have some sort of credit. The plan is to reset the stats at the beginning of every month. We also have a few variables that can be changed or added etc. It's very early days, but I think it's a good start.

Good luck and have fun!

Nice work! congrats for the server... Despite all CloD performance issues and bugs I am enjoying it very much. In a way it reminds me the wonderful times I had over the War Clouds Western Front server. I just stopped cuz I got fed-up of old IL-2.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gollum (Post 362107)
RANKS RANKS RANKS RANKS RANKS!!!!

Instead of setting resets to monthly can you set resets on pilot deaths?

If your pilot dies you loose all stats?

Would make it realistic to want to survive the flight back home and give the bail out command a purpose.

Maybe eventually a rank system?

hooooooooo

+1

TomcatViP 11-16-2011 06:30 PM

Thx Bliss.

Seems ATAG can go as fast in the server run as you'd do it on a 1/4ther mi :rolleyes:

Regarding the one life stat : If years ago I wld hve had the same opinion, I think today with years of online expe that this rule wld be too restrictive.

Even if it's a good time, It's a game. It means that some time, you shot up CoD without being in the same mood as if you had to fight for your own life (and the mission obj). For example, some time, it can happens that I am myself watching TV while playing CoD. Or worst be completely drunk:oops:

(I kown I know, you'd say that Pappy did score most of his kills in that state. But he was talented what I am not even in a virtual world)

So one death per stat will mean that me (and many other) wld play CoD only when they are fit to go according to their expectation.

So, for the sake of keeping this server populated, I wld be more indulgent with only 3death per Stats (inspired from the legendary WC server).

Just my two cents

~S!

KG26_Alpha 11-16-2011 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesehawk (Post 362139)
I like the ideas, but think it encourages too much stat-whoring. Eventually, there will be a way found to generate points off someone else's kill, a la 1946 and last bullet in, and systems with ranks/rankings tend to bring out the worst in people.

Yes .................
When I'm sitting on my 40mm Bofors pinging off the bottom feeders smokers & leaker's.

;)

Vengeanze 11-16-2011 07:02 PM

Where's the stats at?

Sven 11-16-2011 07:04 PM

Awesome! Maybe we can see something like WoP servers have in 1946 in the future, that would be really good. :) Especially for bomber guys atm.

Hellbender 11-16-2011 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vengeanze (Post 362144)
Where's the stats at?

At the frontpage of ATAG.

ATAG_Bliss 11-16-2011 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 362102)
Nice work

Any chance of the script :)

Hi Alpha - it's not a standalone script. It's based off the stats stillborn made for his volcanic island mission. Basically you have to script all the objects/locations for tracking stats. Just take a gander at stillborn's mission and you'll see how he did it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gollum (Post 362107)
RANKS RANKS RANKS RANKS RANKS!!!!

Instead of setting resets to monthly can you set resets on pilot deaths?

If your pilot dies you loose all stats?

Would make it realistic to want to survive the flight back home and give the bail out command a purpose.

Maybe eventually a rank system?

hooooooooo

Well, the whole intent isn't really to drive people to fly a certain way. The ranking part would be a nice addition, and I imagine stuff like that will come in the future. We don't want stat whores ;), but it's a nice way for bombers guys to finally see what they've done throughout the month. Fighter guys as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomcatViP (Post 362137)
Thx Bliss.

Seems ATAG can go as fast in the server run as you'd do it on a 1/4ther mi :rolleyes:

Regarding the one life stat : If years ago I wld hve had the same opinion, I think today with years of online expe that this rule wld be too restrictive.

Even if it's a good time, It's a game. It means that some time, you shot up CoD without being in the same mood as if you had to fight for your own life (and the mission obj). For example, some time, it can happens that I am myself watching TV while playing CoD. Or worst be completely drunk:oops:

(I kown I know, you'd say that Pappy did score most of his kills in that state. But he was talented what I am not even in a virtual world)

So one death per stat will mean that me (and many other) wld play CoD only when they are fit to go according to their expectation.

So, for the sake of keeping this server populated, I wld be more indulgent with only 3death per Stats (inspired from the legendary WC server).

Just my two cents

~S!

Don't worry - they're just there for a nice collection of your performance of the month. By all means, you shouldn't and don't have to fly any differently. Now you just get to see some of the stuff you've accomplished!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vengeanze (Post 362144)
Where's the stats at?

You can go to our home page by selecting "home" from the forums. That will bring you to the playerlist/stats page. Also, I'm adding a stats link to the navbar as we speak for a full page link.

trumps 11-16-2011 09:57 PM

Brilliant work and many thanks to all involved in getting this working and implemented, I should think that this will really help encourage more people into the bombers, and the bomber objectives now have some value. Did you manage to put a scoring value on fixed objects such as hangers, radar towers, buildings ect or is that not possible at this stage?

Looking forward to busting up Britain ;)

Cheers
Craig

Skoshi Tiger 11-16-2011 09:58 PM

Thank you ver much!

ATAG_Bliss 11-16-2011 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trumps (Post 362191)
Did you manage to put a scoring value on fixed objects such as hangers, radar towers, buildings ect or is that not possible at this stage?

Looking forward to busting up Britain ;)

Cheers
Craig

All the default objects that are part of the channel map (hangers/some of the radar towers etc) are not possible (to my knowledge), but basically every single objective in the briefing for both sides will count (if destroyed = 1 kill).

There's plenty more to figure out with this and wildwillie/Doggles are both working on some sort of integrated stats program. So here's hoping to see what they figure out :)

ReconNZ 11-17-2011 01:38 AM

Nice work Bliss, as always love your work!

Lads if u are looking for a stat tracker with ranks, medals and death implications etc check out the stat tracker I created:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=26264

(sorry for the shameless plug). Ideally I'd love to be able to find a way to pull the stats out of the website, at the moment tho u do have to enter them in manually. There is a historical element to this as well tho as I like the activity of filling the log in after sorties, plus it only takes 2'mins and u can choose to exclude drunken sorties!! :-)

Hopefully this helps fill the void till someone much smarter than me can create an integrated one!

Cheers all

Recon

Hellbender 11-17-2011 06:16 AM

Does the "Place Enters" value reflect how often you spawned a plane ?

David198502 11-17-2011 07:36 AM

i just looked at the stats page...thx atag guys for this one...i have not flown yet since the stats are up, but what i miss, is a death counter.and a kill/death ratio.

baronWastelan 11-17-2011 08:30 AM

The stats page credits me with 8 kills, but at most it should be 6:

2 x He 111
1 x Do 217
1 x Br 20
2 x bf 109e-4

Name = L.Z

SEE 11-17-2011 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellbender (Post 362260)
Does the "Place Enters" value reflect how often you spawned a plane ?

Yes, you get a 'mission start' message each time you spawn.

You will need to keep tabs on any missions that you were unable to complete due to LE crashes, etc, (if that stat is important to you in terms of personal sortie/kill ratio.)

ATAG_Doc 11-17-2011 02:32 PM

Sure would cool if someone would write an API to send server chat / status messages to Twitter. :)

Hellbender 11-17-2011 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEE (Post 362323)
Yes, you get a 'mission start' message each time you spawn.

You will need to keep tabs on any missions that you were unable to complete due to LE crashes, etc, (if that stat is important to you in terms of personal sortie/kill ratio.)

Thx Evangeluse.

*Helo*

TomcatViP 11-17-2011 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timej31 (Post 362327)
Sure would cool if someone would write an API to send server chat / status messages to Twitter. :)

Yeah and order a Pizza for me 10min before mission end :rolleyes:

ATAG_Bliss 11-19-2011 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellbender (Post 362260)
Does the "Place Enters" value reflect how often you spawned a plane ?

Yes!

Quote:

Originally Posted by David198502 (Post 362277)
i just looked at the stats page...thx atag guys for this one...i have not flown yet since the stats are up, but what i miss, is a death counter.and a kill/death ratio.

I've asked Watchman about this, and basically, if it's possible, we don't know how to do it yet. :(

Both WildWillie and Doggles are working on some sort of stats/server commander type programs. Hopefully, some of that stuff isn't too far off into the future.

trumps 11-20-2011 01:09 AM

works great Bliss, great to see my little tally slowly mounting!

Cheers
Craig

robtek 11-20-2011 11:08 AM

Just the list, ranked by kill per joining 20.11.2011 11:00 cet
http://robtek.de/ATAG stats 201111.xlsx

TomcatViP 11-20-2011 02:46 PM

What means Place enter ?

Would it be possible to re-order the list by alphabetic order or rank ?

The blue color makes it harder to read (at least for me) such as the alternate Bold text.

Thx

Qpassa 11-20-2011 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robtek (Post 363077)
Just the list, ranked by kill per joining 20.11.2011 11:00 cet
http://robtek.de/ATAG stats 201111.xlsx

nice, I have to improve :)

ElAurens 11-20-2011 03:21 PM

Once the FMs are brought more into line with reality many things will change, so I'm not sweating any stats at this point.

I just hope the 109 boys enjoy their dominance while they have the chance. The playing field will (or should be) a lot more even once things are properly tweaked.

Robo. 11-20-2011 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 363122)
Once the FMs are brought more into line with reality many things will change, so I'm not sweating any stats at this point.

I just hope the 109 boys enjoy their dominance while they have the chance. The playing field will (or should be) a lot more even once things are properly tweaked.

Why do you think so? I think the 109s are faster and better climbers and RAF are turning tighter and that's how it's supposed to be imho ;) The only funny thing is that Hurricane is faster than Spit.

As for the stats - nice one chaps, K/D would be great or simply vierual deaths next to victories will do.

SEE 11-20-2011 03:46 PM

Place Enter is the number of times you spawned (it's described earlier in the thread).

I agree with Cheesehawk, the stats are great if used for personal reference rather than 'formal' measure such as Rank. You cannot rely on the Place enter figure anyway because of LE instabilty, server restarts, etc.

Neither do the stat tell you the percentage between AI and player ac kills or wether players are part of squadrons that work as a team - these sort of things are allready being discussed on TS since the stats were introduced. A player does one spawn in a BF109, kills four bombers and Valec flys 30 missions with 90 kills (mostly Players too!) and gets a lower ranking?

I may be wrong, but ranking may cause additional problems regards some player relationships - vulching, accidentally run into on TO, friendly kills, etc!

robtek 11-20-2011 05:43 PM

As the stats i posted are a excel file everybody can sort it as he/she likes.

It would be great if the deaths are counted also.

robtek 11-20-2011 08:28 PM

Just the list, ranked by kill per joining 20.11.2011 21:30h cet
http://robtek.de/ATAG stats 201111.xlsx

TomcatViP 11-21-2011 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEE (Post 363128)
Place Enter is the number of times you spawned (it's described earlier in the thread).

Rgr thx !


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