is the photograph underneath the galaxy or over it
 

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0Hkb6MZ3tb.../s1600/mw4.jpg

its a matter of knowing the right 3d perespective

oh man if you had a perception you cant deny which wildly contradicts the aceepted reality what would you think

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/raaaid/mw4.jpg

Well it's Andromeda and a spiral galaxy. Obviously the lower half is nearest the centre, the upper half is farther away. That's why some of the stars above are obscured by the centre as they are behind it.

well but without perceiving depth you cant be really sure

maybe the galaxy has some deformated rings :)

though id say the position its as it looks

Remember, the enemy's gate is down.

It's the same as asking "The southpole is actually magnetic north?"

It all defers from the viewpoint. The earth is round, you know?!:cool:

On top of it. The widest part of the 'disc edge' is nearest, the edge that is farthest away will appear smaller.

Who cares?

It's all relative.

the odd thing is that is extreamly rare for me perceive depth in real life

but i do quite often on tv and most time on youtube

seems real life stereo is very wide, but on screen the smaller the window the softer the stereo

the first thing ill do when i recover my depth perception is go to the mountains to wacth the stars :)

probably ill have to take my car but with a bit of like i might be able to se the stars over the clouds :)

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here one more difficult

can you tell whats close and far?

http://www.downloadstock.net/screens...aver_13621.jpg

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I'm not sure I understand the question?

Thats the M31 Andromada galaxy for sure (a great picture) I guess many of those stars are in our own Milky Way Galaxy and we are looking through them to M31.

I'm a bit of a casual astronomer and one of the first wow moments was when I found this galaxy on my telescope.

I guess most folk know that this galaxy is part of our local group that is not moving away from us, its close enough (still about 2.5 million light years away) for our mutual gravity to have an effect, eventually that galaxy and our own will merge, we wont be around and probably not our Earth or solar system, but what a sight it would be as it got close.

i wonder:

whats the point of binoculars being binocular if at 10 km distance teoretically you dont have binocular vision:confused:

in this second picture the rings are closer trhan the center

now do wonder how do i know

http://www.downloadstock.net/screens...aver_13621.jpg

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i dont think ill ever forget either the time i discover i saw a picture of andromeda in 3d :)

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http://imgs.segundamano.es/images/985/98502607139.jpg

the anligens atre everywhere ;)

I like your tangent!

I've bought one Minichamps die cast bike and I'm quite impressed, its Carl Fogarty's race Ducati.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...s/Fogarty2.jpg

Mostly I like to build Tamiya 1/12 bike kits though, bought one master class Tamiya one, this is a kit professionally built and I bought it as a sort of yardstick and what to aim for.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w.../Pedrosa33.jpg

Here is my bike kit stash building up along three of my own built bikes.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...amiyaBikes.jpg

And an almost up to date pic of my Tamiya 1/12 Bike kit stash, just three new ones that never made this pic, yesterday splashed on a very good quality H&S 2 in 1 airbrush and a compressor too ... scale modelling is a great hobby!

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...scalestash.jpg

once i had a wild hallucination after my antipsicotics shot:

there was a guy with an intense white hallo in a circuit straight

he siad with a smile in his face:

when certain pilot did a test lap on saturday achieving a record speed on that straight he was he was asked why he did it on saturaday instead of in infrday as it was programmed

his answer:

are you crazy if i had done that lap in friday ALL STOCK MARKETS FROM THE WORLD WOULD HAVE FALLEN

the world is crazy thats why i understand it so well :)

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but the truth is the worlds perfectly safe, the powers are amused by me as long as im safe the world safe :)

does it rain cause im sad or im sad cause it rains? but theres a 95% relation

of course this is just grandeur delsuion not true

but you know when a folwer dies on earth an star dies as well maybe in andromeda, quantum entanglemebnt

I see ... can I have a pint of what you are drinking please :)

But can you explain why CERN recently found their experiment with Neutrino's were apparently able to exceed the speed of light? this has still to be verified by the wider scientific community, but if true ... Einstein is out of a job ... oh wait!

with quantum entanglement you can send "soemthing" with which you win the game 100% with whcih without you would only win 50%

you cant send info but you can send this "something" i call it pseudoinfo maybe superinfo like sending a feeling :)

eisnteins been withholding all these years in the semantics of the word info

here a good article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_pseudo-telepathy

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you know if cerns right then tt is posible right?

according my wide experience with paradox in the grandpa paradox the murderer will have his free will limited and his grandpa just will notice he crossed a guy with a strange resemblance and a face like being constipated :)

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in fact the people who want to change the course of histoy have thir free will so limited that this is mainly the only thing they do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyu1KKwC74

but they dont change the main events just the circunstances

to be more right the videoclip should have shown the interferers with this face :) :

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...1522_rajoy.jpg

thats the face they put when they verify the uncognoscible dont let them to :)

So, if my future grandad, second son in law or whatever went back in time and told Hitler (notice not shot him or killed him) to make a history, this current sequence of events ... to arrive at this conclusion where we play a flight sim of WW2 BoB theatre, that this is where we are now in 2011? ... just because of that future time machine my hypothetical future grandad or whatever did?

And its all just one possible reality? just one of an endless possible permutations of reality ... I don't think so, that sort of scientific reasoning is nice, but its getting back to religion concepts (where we never die) and are arrogant enough to think we have disposable life's ... we'll make the next one better.

Heh, that is the stuff of other religins who blow them selfes up for their gods.

Seriously ... I dont know how it works, not even Stephan Hawking does, but we only have one life, its not a dress rehearsal for a future life or an alternate time warp life :)

Life is a gift, make the most of it.

yeah carpe diem

im having a blast discovering my 3d vision :)

i just discover i can watch tv in a miniwindow which allows me to esily see 3d for being narrow stereo contrary to treality which is very wide stereo

i read bad things about the antipsicotics im having like its a chemical lobotomy by constricting vessels so i was afraid it would take away my recently discovered 3d vision but it didnt :)

bad enoguh my left hand is like sleep

but i think the antipsicotics are actually good for my they protect me against psichic attacks

i completely trust my family :)

in fact the internet is so bs that once i pour urine in my forehead for an eczema after reading 30 pages in a forum prasing urine therapy, mna what a collusion

i think the best of my life is present and all bad that happens is actually good in disguise :)

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i think what the stage wants to hide is:

NOTHING BAD CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE

is like what if the worls actually perfect? just things would be not what they seem

man i can tell whay would be every tv be the most perfected stereovision

Never mind that, get some coffee down you and sober up and watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFRia...yer_detailpage

And did you exchange
a walk for a part in the war
for a lead role in a cage?

How i wish, how i wish yolu were here
we´re just two lost souls
swimmingin a fish bow!
Year after year.
Running over the
same old ground.
What have we found?
The same old fears.

You can't be completely insane if you like Pink Floyd........

Pink Floyd were the best ... i saw em live you know, Earls Court 94, Pulse toure, best stadium rock show ever.

But it ended with a sort of twin beam oscillating twirling twin searchlight over the London sky ... it was wonderful to see, me and my and mates were walking away trying to say, well it was OK ... I've seen better, but deep down we knew that was it ... the perfect concert.

When i looked back at the arena ... I remember those spotlights over London again, but they were just straight jet up in the sky ... approaching the gig, they were swirling.

Pink Floyd were the best ... i saw em live you know, Earls Court 94, Pulse toure, best stadium rock show ever.

But it ended with a sort of twin beam oscillating twirling twin searchlight over the London sky ... it was wonderful to see, me and my and mates were walking away trying to say, well it was OK ... I've seen better, but deep down we knew that was it ... the perfect concert.

When i looked back at the arena ... I remember those spotlights over London again, but they were just straight jet up in the sky ... approaching the gig, they were swirling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2aOc...yer_detailpage

Anyway, this is a load of bollox, lets make a new thread tangent about bands ... I've got over 50 posts, so I'm good to go.

Apparently.

well 50% of people got it wrong

and the 50% of people who goit right 25 did it by luck

so i conclude a 25% of the world population has 3d perception

but whats the worlds population

theres this comercial:
i drive until we meet someone so he keeps driving on on on in emtpy cities:confused:

did 3rd war world start in 2002 after that aerial accident in an exhibition in ukrania

i rememebr the rtl showing an almost invisible rocket downing the plane

and this line i just found :


I watched it all go down with my two eyes. I saw the flames shooting across the sky. I heard the screams and the unnerving cries That emanated from all those determined to survive. I called your name, but there was no reply. I felt the pain, wondered if you're alive, if you've been saved, or you've been sacrificed. Ain't it a shame the way they play these games with human life? Don't you ever stop and wonder why? The truth is more elusive than a lie.

Erm... How did you come to that conclusion Raaid?

oh in any 2 choices option you have a 50% chance of getting it right by luck