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roadczar 05-20-2011 03:26 AM

5760 x 1080 Cliffs of Dover Eyefinity and Crossfire Performance 14550
 
Much improved!

A little more tuning and it will be perfect! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO0MYcI344c

Kankkis 05-20-2011 03:40 AM

Little different than last time ;)

roadczar 05-20-2011 05:04 AM

Here is the old one (beta 14413) for comparison:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y-CB0VDHlk

Longbone 05-20-2011 06:24 AM

Very nice hardware mat

but can you show or tell us the average GPU utilization please :grin:

I would be deeply gratful about that

Sorry for my bad english :rolleyes:


Thank you

Buchon 05-20-2011 07:29 AM

Did you try Radeon Pro ? , it let you tweak Crossfire

Until the release of the CAP that support IL2COD you can made a custom one.

roadczar 05-20-2011 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longbone (Post 285964)
Very nice hardware mat

but can you show or tell us the average GPU utilization please :grin:

I would be deeply gratful about that

Sorry for my bad english :rolleyes:


Thank you

These are the averages for the run. GPUZ did not capture all GPUs, but judging by temp about 50%?
Is there a better way to capture this? RadeonPro also indicates ~50%...

http://roadczar.com/images/il2gpu.jpg

Longbone 05-20-2011 12:44 PM

Oh!! Thank You, :)
this raise my hope that the next Nvidia Driver has a better performance than now.

At the moment SLI utilizes only GPU 1 :confused:

Cheers

Winger 05-20-2011 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadczar (Post 285936)
Much improved!

A little more tunning and it will be perfect! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO0MYcI344c

/swankmode on
Nice. Cannot wait to get SLI to work and finally and hopefully run the game in 2560x1600 maxxedd out.
I hope my Tripple GTX480 Setup will be enough for it.

/swankmode off

:)

Winger

JG14_Jagr 05-20-2011 01:10 PM

Do the lights in your town go dimm when you turn that sucker on? :-)

Rattlehead 05-20-2011 01:13 PM

Glad you've finally able to run it properly. That is a beast of a system you have there and should not struggle with any game, regardless of settings.

SG1_Lud 05-20-2011 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadczar (Post 285936)
Much improved!

A little more tunning and it will be perfect! :)

*drooling*

I need urgently you tell me what is your PSU. I have good one but is 750W and I think it will not be enough. The rest of the system is pretty much like yours.

Winger 05-20-2011 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG14_Jagr (Post 286127)
Do the lights in your town go dimm when you turn that sucker on? :-)

Heh i put LED bulbs in all of my lamps in the whole house in order to compensate for the GTXs:P

Winger

sfmadmax 05-20-2011 01:43 PM

great post!

roadczar 05-20-2011 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cheyennepilot (Post 286131)
*drooling*

I need urgently you tell me what is your PSU. I have good one but is 750W and I think it will not be enough. The rest of the system is pretty much like yours.

LOL - overclocked power draw for dual HD6990s is roughly 900W. :)

I'm using SILVERSTONE ST1500 1500W:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256054

BTW, the max draw for a single US fuse circuit is 1200W, but I have not blown any fuses ... yet. :)

Longbone 05-20-2011 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadczar (Post 285936)
Much improved!

A little more tunning and it will be perfect! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO0MYcI344c

Hi mate,
to do this my idea would be buy 6GB more RAM
I think you have 3 Slots free then run a RAMDISK and move your Steam+
Game on it.This would give you a few more frames or little bit higher settings.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...hlight=ramdisk

I've running a 5GB Ramdisk with entire Steam on it and it gave me about 10FPS more over London, it's only a suggestion. :wink:

Cheers

roadczar 05-20-2011 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longbone (Post 286294)
Hi mate,
to do this my idea would be buy 6GB more RAM
I think you have 3 Slots free then run a RAMDISK and move your Steam+
Game on it.This would give you a few more frames or little bit higher settings.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...hlight=ramdisk

I've running a 5GB Ramdisk with entire Steam on it and it gave me about 10FPS more over London, it's only a suggestion. :wink:

Cheers

Thanks! With RAID 0 SSD drive access is less of a bottleneck, but I will add memory when I go to Intel LGA2011 Socket, Q4/2011

l3uLLDoZeR 05-20-2011 06:48 PM

Looks sweet man...I think those GPU's are worth more than my car, nice rig!

Longbone 05-20-2011 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadczar (Post 286344)
Thanks! With RAID 0 SSD drive access is less of a bottleneck, but I will add memory when I go to Intel LGA2011 Socket, Q4/2011

Wow!
Nice future very advanced Quad-Channel Memory PCI-Express-3.0 X68 or X79
are they using DDR3 ?

I'm also running Raid 0 but only with 2xOCZ AgilityII 60GB
and only 1 100GB partition left 20GB free for selfrepair actions, but RAMDISK is about 40 times faster

Cheers
EDIT Hotfix is coming
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=23086

roadczar 05-20-2011 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l3uLLDoZeR (Post 286349)
Looks sweet man...I think those GPU's are worth more than my car, nice rig!

Thanks. Still a lot cheaper than buying cars and motorcycles! ;)

roadczar 05-20-2011 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longbone (Post 286365)
Wow!
Nice future very advanced Quad-Channel Memory PCI-Express-3.0 X68 or X79
are they using DDR3 ?

DDR3 from what I've read, but as you pointed out it will be quad channel.

Bryan21cag 05-20-2011 10:31 PM

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Cheers man for getting some great performance :)

I am just curious though I am getting not even close to the same performance and was wondering if you were having the same issue prior to the patch?

I am attaching my two photos of what My GPU's were doing in both tests and now I am starting to worry that its either my set up or my cards that are under powered.

Just wanted to get your opinion. Thanks very much and grats again on getting that kind of performance.

Both Tests were performed at 1920x1080 on a 40' HD TV. I still get that GPU1 clipping and only minor improvement in GPU2 performance.

roadczar 05-20-2011 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan21cag (Post 286493)
Cheers man for getting some great performance :)

I am just curious though I am getting not even close to the same performance and was wondering if you were having the same issue prior to the patch?

I am attaching my two photos of what My GPU's were doing in both tests and now I am starting to worry that its either my set up or my cards that are under powered.

Just wanted to get your opinion. Thanks very much and grats again on getting that kind of performance.

Both Tests were performed at 1920x1080 on a 40' HD TV. I still get that GPU1 clipping and only minor improvement in GPU2 performance.

Before the last (14550) patch the sim was unflyable on my rig at any graphic settings. The issue was not with frame rates it was the stuttering.
My guess, with your rig at 1920x1080 on medium settings you should be getting average of 40 - 50 FPS. One thing I've noticed even with 14550 patch that disabling mirror significantly improved the smoothness of rendering.

Cheers!

Bryan21cag 05-20-2011 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by roadczar (Post 286532)
Before the last (14550) patch the sim was unflyable on my rig at any graphic settings. The issue was not with frame rates it was the stuttering.
My guess, with your rig at 1920x1080 on medium settings you should be getting average of 40 - 50 FPS. One thing I've noticed even with 14550 patch that disabling mirror significantly improved the smoothness of rendering.

Cheers!

Thanks :) I was being dumb i forgot to update my ATI drivers. Once i updated to 11.5 I got almost the same performance that the OP for this thread did :) almost :) his cards are better then mine so I got just a bit more stutter with everything on but MAN was it fun to fly a complete mission :) With just a bit of tweaking im sure i can get it to run smooth as silk 50+ fps and with future improvements may even be able to run it with full graphics switches :) (fingers crossed) wooooooot :) if feels good to be back in the air again :)

here is my performance single Brit campaign mission with everything on full 1920x1080. :)

Longbone 05-21-2011 12:01 AM

Have you tested 14588 already?
Think it is a little bit smoother, 1 step in the right direction
Tomorrow I will start more testing,it's 2:00Am now

Cheers

roadczar 05-21-2011 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longbone (Post 286548)
Have you tested 14588 already?
Think it is a little bit smoother, 1 step in the right direction
Tomorrow I will start more testing,it's 2:00Am now

Cheers

Yes, in fact I feel like I should be getting paid.

Here is something weird. At default medium settings my frame rates range 50-60. If I change anything like lowering amount of buildings from medium to low my average FPS drop below 25! :rolleyes:

We are still in beta - my offshore developers in India do better testing LOL.

roadczar 05-21-2011 05:42 PM

After monkeying with this thing for couple of hours it seems the best balance for me is having everything on highest settings with SSAO and VSYNC OFF, AA=8.

No mirrors. Having mirrors causing major performance and stutter issues with my setup.

I don't get it, but I can live with this.

London still has major issues with FPS and stuttering.

Longbone 05-21-2011 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadczar (Post 286575)
Yes, in fact I feel like I should be getting paid.

Here is something weird. At default medium settings my frame rates range 50-60. If I change anything like lowering amount of buildings from medium to low my average FPS drop below 25! :rolleyes:

We are still in beta - my offshore developers in India do better testing LOL.

You are right, Steam shows me 229 Hours of Betatesting
must look were my post-dated cheque is :evil:


Quote:

Originally Posted by roadczar (Post 286925)
After monkeying with this thing for couple of hours it seems the best balance for me is having everything on highest settings with SSAO and VSYNC OFF, AA=8.

No mirrors. Having mirrors causing major performance and stutter issues with my setup.

I don't get it, but I can live with this.

London still has major issues with FPS and stuttering.

Conclusion

since latest patch (I had this Cloud thing on)

3x Launcher crash
Sound+ForceFeedback comes and goes
must repair my key and joystick setting
my Freetrack won't start anymore :sad:
but yes it run a little bit smoother (I think)

now I will to reinstall Win7 and all the other stuff
it will take some time :rolleyes:

Cheers

Thee_oddball 05-21-2011 11:07 PM

nice rig :) I get the exact same microstuters at the same alt as you when flying over london :( good news is its not my machine that is causing it :)

S!

roadczar 05-22-2011 12:31 AM

My on-line performance (>20 FPS) is pathetic regardless of settings. :-x

Thee_oddball 05-22-2011 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadczar (Post 287086)
My on-line performance (>20 FPS) is pathetic regardless of settings. :-x

have you tried just running one card? i ask because you should be getting 60+ fps with your rig and the only thing i can see in your specs that would cause a bottle neck is the XFIRE and the hydra you are running.

roadczar 05-22-2011 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thee_oddball (Post 287094)
have you tried just running one card? i ask because you should be getting 60+ fps with your rig and the only thing i can see in your specs that would cause a bottle neck is the XFIRE and the hydra you are running.

Have not tried. At this point I'm ready to put the sim down until the next patch comes out.

Psycho_Ch!cken 05-22-2011 06:59 AM

I notice your field of view is not completely stuffed by default. Has something changed in a patch to automatically handle aspect ratios other than 4:3 or have you been playing with configs to alter it? I know there's a command to manually increase/decrease FoV but it's still based around a 4:3 AR and so the natural consequence is that you get Vert-, which is disorienting and gives me headaches. True widescreen support would be Hor+ only and yours doesn't look too far off that in the clip you posted, but it's hard to be sure based on a small YouTube video. :)

EDIT: Just gave it another crack. Clearly nothing was changed in a patch, it's still Vert- and horrible to look at. Yours still looks better than mine, so I'm curious if you've found a config setting somewhere that I haven't? Or maybe yours is still Vert- and you're being conservative on how far back you zoom it?

roadczar 05-22-2011 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho_Ch!cken (Post 287161)
I notice your field of view is not completely stuffed by default. Has something changed in a patch to automatically handle aspect ratios other than 4:3 or have you been playing with configs to alter it? I know there's a command to manually increase/decrease FoV but it's still based around a 4:3 AR and so the natural consequence is that you get Vert-, which is disorienting and gives me headaches. True widescreen support would be Hor+ only and yours doesn't look too far off that in the clip you posted, but it's hard to be sure based on a small YouTube video. :)

EDIT: Just gave it another crack. Clearly nothing was changed in a patch, it's still Vert- and horrible to look at. Yours still looks better than mine, so I'm curious if you've found a config setting somewhere that I haven't? Or maybe yours is still Vert- and you're being conservative on how far back you zoom it?

Something did change with 14550. By default zoom level is correct, before it was too close.
Not sure what the difference is between increasing the FOV and Hor+? There is no loss of vertical content and no fisheye effect that would result from Vert-.

Your headache is probably the result of stuttering.

Psycho_Ch!cken 05-22-2011 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadczar (Post 287283)
Something did change with 14550. By default zoom level is correct, before it was too close.
Not sure what the difference is between increasing the FOV and Hor+? There is no loss of vertical content and no fisheye effect that would result from Vert-.

Your headache is probably the result of stuttering.

I may have a cache issue, because I definitely still have Vert- and manually increasing the FoV gives a serious fisheye effect. I do not have particularly serious stuttering at the moment and it doesn't give me headaches regardless. It gets my blood pressure up but that's not the same. :P

EDIT: Yep, cache problem. They have indeed swapped out their hardcoded values for a proper algorithm. I wonder if they borrowed the one I posted a few weeks back? Doesn't matter either way, I'm just happy it's working. Performance is still pretty awful but it's a start!

Random side question, I see you have a HOTAS Warthog. Are you using a custom TARGET profile for it or just manually binding controls in game?

roadczar 05-22-2011 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho_Ch!cken (Post 287293)
I may have a cache issue, because I definitely still have Vert- and manually increasing the FoV gives a serious fisheye effect. I do not have particularly serious stuttering at the moment and it doesn't give me headaches regardless. It gets my blood pressure up but that's not the same. :P

EDIT: Yep, cache problem. They have indeed swapped out their hardcoded values for a proper algorithm. I wonder if they borrowed the one I posted a few weeks back? Doesn't matter either way, I'm just happy it's working. Performance is still pretty awful but it's a start!

Random side question, I see you have a HOTAS Warthog. Are you using a custom TARGET profile for it or just manually binding controls in game?

Manually binding...

roadczar 05-22-2011 07:07 PM

Update!
Most of my issues are resolved, see:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...d=1#post287425

He111 05-25-2011 04:04 AM

damn11 i don't believe the fan speeds on those 6990s, apparently they're as noisey as a jet taking off when pushed to the max .. obviously the Crossfire combo has shared the strain.

He111.

Grintch 05-29-2011 02:32 AM

Triple head settings
 
Any suggestions on setting up the game to work with 3 monitors? Its unplayable for me. I doesn't even work with it set to a single monitor resolution.

The display port monitor goes to sleep as soon as the game starts (naturally it the one where the button is hidden by the overlapping bezel of the center monitor). Then the game seems to get confused about which monitor is where and shifts everything right one monitor. The menus are cut in half by the 1st & 2nd monitor bezels.

Even trying to run in single monitor mode, these problems still occur (how the hell the menu problem still occurs is beyond me). Plus the game wants to run 3 copies of the display, instead of just running on the center monitor. This happens each time the display port monitor goes to sleep, which is everytime I try to fix something, thus the display keeps shifting over one.

Lots of cursing during the whole process.

ATI 5850 in Eyefinity driving 3x 22" monitors. I have a second 5850, but have it disabled at the moment (Crossfire is another complication that I am avoiding while trying to get basic functionality).

roadczar 05-29-2011 03:36 AM

Hey Grintch,

Sorry, at least from the ATI perspective for me it was pretty painless experience.
Obvious questions, but are your ATI drivers up to date (11.5)? Do other games run using infinity?
Sounds like you are running extended displays.
Did you try to set a different preferred display under the AMD Eyefinity Multi-Display Settings?

JG5_emil 05-29-2011 04:53 AM

Hey roadczar....from your last video it still looks like you get stuttering especially at low level....is this the case or is that youtube?

roadczar 05-29-2011 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JG5_emil (Post 290378)
Hey roadczar....from your last video it still looks like you get stuttering especially at low level....is this the case or is that youtube?


In that video, yes there was definitely some game related stuttering.
Most was resolved by RadeonPro. I'll do another video.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...d=1#post287425

335th_GRAthos 05-30-2011 11:12 PM

by the way, if you want to have the 3renders option available in CoD (full 90° view left, centre, right, as IL2FB has) make sure you post your requirement under http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=23405 ;)

roadczar 05-30-2011 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos (Post 291203)
by the way, if you want to have the 3renders option available in CoD (full 90° view left, centre, right, as IL2FB has) make sure you post your requirement under http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=23405 ;)

done!

rpgielow 05-31-2011 09:48 AM

Hello guys !!!

I have one 5870 running this game very well in high setting except for London. Now I am considering to buy another 5870 (Its cheaper now and crossfire support available) but I dont have experience with crossfire and technical requirements. I hope you can help me...

Lets go!!! I have a xfx 5870 and my first doubt is about power supply.

■500 Watt or greater power supply with two 75W 6-pin PCI Express® power connectors recommended (600 Watt and four 6-pin connectors for ATI CrossFireX™ technology in dual mode)

My power supply is a Corsair 950w:

http://www.corsair.com/enthusiast-se...er-supply.html

So... I can handle 2x5870 because I only need 600w from my 950w power supply or I will need 2x600w because I am running two GPUS ????

I am reading now all manuals from ATI but some support from you guys would be great :)

TY !!!

roadczar 05-31-2011 11:40 AM

You should not have issues running 2 HD5870 using 950W PSU.


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