what new aircraft do we need the most?
 

i'm going to say the Ju 52. workhorse of the luftwaffe completely left out!

anyone else got suggestions?

Forget the Ju52 we need the 109 F :-P

I WOULD LIKE TO FIND THE FW 190.BUT IT WAS NOT IN YHE BATTLE OF BRITAIN:-x

I didn't know they flew tante Ju's over the channel?

Fairey Battle please.

Fieseler Storch :cool:

In the Battle of Britain theatre? I'd say flyable Do17s..

Other theatres though definately the 190 :)

Ok, I'll get a jump on it, the Westland Whirlwind.



CloD whirly-whining FTW!

I think, in Battle of Britain, we need the 109F.

In other theatres, we need a P40, it was used in almost every theater and it was used throughout the whole war and it looks cool. And it flies great if you know how to use its strenghts.

~S~

+1 For the FW 190, although not used during the battle of britain I'd love to see it in a further addon/standalone like Forgotten battles did with Il2.

NONE. for christs sake we have only just got these.

Beardmore Inflexible...;)

Only kidding. Making the Wellington and Do 17 flyable would be nice. Whirlwind, definitely. I'd really like a Walrus though...

I’d love to see a Spitfire Mk I in the condition as operated during the Battle of Britain, i.e. 100 octane/+12 boost and constant speed propeller! I don’t really know how you can even have a legitimate Battle of Britain simulation without it…

Hmmm, a Battle of Britain era Hurricane Mk I (100 octane/constant speed propeller) would be really nice too for a Battle of Britain simulation ;)

The Dornier flyalbe I say.

http://www.aviartnutkins.com/images/...fires-Do17.jpg

Totally new? E1 and E4.

Just make the AI only aircraft we currently have flyable for a start.

Then, and only then, add the Curtiss Hawk 75, Dewoitine D.520, One of the Bloch bombers and the 109 E1 so we can have Battle of France scenarios.

Flyable Defiants :D Especially fun in multiplayer, I'd say.

we had the lerche what about a flying turtle?

edit:

hey im serious i mean antigravity machines

anyones nick cooks race for zero point?

having the ones we have as AI being made flyable would be nice, but I'm a bit bummed they left out planes like the Jungmann or the Harvard, these machines would have made the syllabus experience way more exciting and realistic (again, I'm thinking in terms of Battle of Britain times).

Uh and I would LOVE to see the Cierva Autogyro in action! That would be a good test for the flight model me thinks (other than being sheer fun!).

Was the P-51 deployed during the BoB or she came later?

Any chance of any US made planes? I'm not american but that would prolly sell this great game better overseas.

Dream: 109F4 or 109G2

Real needed: 109E4-E7

angree

The RAF weren't using any American built fighters until 1941. Even then, not in the European theatre because the P-40 wasn't thought to be good enough to face German fighters (too low a ceiling.)

P-51 was waaaay later.

Spitfire V
Bf109 F2
Mc200
Gladiator

Would be nice to have a flyable german trainer. In a pinch, the BF108.

Some of the now AI would be nice as flyable, such as Do17 and Wellington.

I see no need in 1941 or even later aircraft in a 1940 scenario ?!?
Do these in later add-ons.

Not sure whether the Taifun was used as training, it was more of a liaison aircraft as far as I know, but I might be wrong.

It'd be nice to see planes like the FW44 Stieglitz or the Bucker Jungmann!

from the existing AI
-> http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=21808

as totaly knew ones:
Hurricane IIa
Bf109E-1
Bf109E-4
Bf109E-4/N
Blenheim Mk.IVF

Yes! Love to have battle of France scenarios with the used planes. D520 limited in numbers though as it just was phased in when the bof started.
Perhaps also some real Fokker planes for Dutch campaign.

In a second step expand to Mediterranian theatre including Greece campaign.

I want a space shuttle.....

;)

I want a mosquito!

How about all AI planes we have right now become flyable for a start.

I think that all major aircraft for BoB period are there. So we don't actually need any more aircraft for that scenario. But I would like 109F or early 190 most.

Ju52, that bird flew around everywhere, urgently required. Storch coming in a close second.

Also, a flyable Wellington would increase allied options immensely.

It was indeed used as a trainer, although I think in a limited capacity.

For me, the Do-17, BF108 and Defiant would be welcome additions.

flyable Do17z definitely:cool:

Playable Stug III G please :)

Gotta agree with the French planes.
We were never able to fly them in IL2; it would be cool for once to try the D.520 and the MS406.

The map could be "stretched" from northern to southern France as to cover great battles against the germans and italians.

But I'd also like to see the Do.17 flyable. It was such a pretty plane..

Cheers

Any think that's is British :)

Flyable Beaufighter and a Spit with a CANON! :lol:

Salute

We don't need new aircraft, we need the ones we have right now done with correct flight models, controls and graphics.

Flyable Do17 and Beaufighter . Mind you a flyable Condor would be great but no expected.
New plane would be a AI Ju52
a flyable Storch or AI, even for airfield scenery.

storch! then i call slip into Abbeville for a fun saturday nite out

a anson would be fun to fly from a airbase to another for a dynamical campaign

You guys are all nuts.
The most glaring omission, in terms of an aircraft that featured heavily in BOB but doesn't exist in the game, is the Bf109-E4.
That's what we need first. We've got 2 major Spitfire versions and only 1 Bf109.

would also like to see the storch. what about other early war allied aircraft like the the P-40? allison powered mustangs?

and yes - we do need the E4.

Luthier has said that more versions of 109 are coming soon.

One plane that I am still puzzled wasn't made flyable is the Me108. That plane has no point to it whatsoever in the game except for taking joyrides in. Suspect it probably was intended to be flyable but put on hold.

My personal choice would be the Wellington, though adding the Su26 would provide some alternative fun to dogfighting.

Bf110D-3

I'm definitely for stamping out the bugs before anything. Luthier already said that the E1 and E4 were coming, so that's covered. As for the scenario at hand (BOB) I think we've got it covered, though I'd like to see a few more of the bit players such as the storch, and the ju52 even though they weren't involved in the battle directly, they'd be regulars at home fields and would get involved much more often in later "Friejagd" and "Rodeo" scenarios.

Present A.I. as flyable is a given.

I like the Battle of France idea as well.

My real dream though is the push forward to 1941 and my beloved Friedrich. *sigh*

All in good time, all in good time.

Seventh Heaven
 

De Havilland Dominie (Dragon Rapide), Bristol Bombay, Handley Page Hampden and Airspeed Oxford would do me and pave the way to the stars. All historically correct as well. Per Ardua Ad Astra!!!

Like others said E4 and AI planes.

Something exotic?

Ok how about a Zero jk

But AI n E4 to start

E4..... Im happy with anything they add though!

Fw 190

i would like to see the spitfire mkII with the 4 303. machine guns and the 20 mm Hispano cannon introduced on 3rd of june 1940 even if there was only 920 made before the end of the battle of britain

i dont remeber a fw190 in the battle of britain buddy :P

B-17g

Lancaster Bomber..

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_t9gZwNaeGy...terBanking.jpg

mmm what a great plane i hope when they bring the b17f and lancaster pluss wellington out and make them flyable probs in the next addon would be amazing


just thinking would be able to do the dambuster raid now that would be somthink :D

I just hope 1C Gaming allows 3rd party involvement so the community can have a vast array of fights / bombers..

Also another "Luft 46" Pack is a MUST!

Agree!
Nobody knows but Hitler used the Me-262 with great success in BoB.

Me too, but I think that's a wise choice indeed

Me too, it's a great expansion choice IMO

I would be quite happy if the Beaufighter was flyable.

Fw-200 :d

I would like the ones that are currently in the sim fixed first. Only then should we even consider what we want next.

I agree but only if the cannons were as good as they were in real life and don't work. :rolleyes:

Lockheed Hudson

Weren't there some dev pics of the Ju52 (wheeled & seaplane versions) waaay back during the development of CloD? Maybe those will be added soon. As for future additions...

New planes:
a German Trainer is a must... Fw44, Go145, Ar66 or Bu131.
Some German seaplanes would be cool too (He59 was under development for CloD early on and a Do18 would be nice...)

AI planes to be made flyable should include the:
CR.42 & Gladiator (likely additions if they ever make a Med add-on).
Beaufighter (to provide an English counter to the Bf110).
Wellington (give the Brits a heavy-weight bomber)
Do17Z (most popular AI-to-flyable request in the poll in that other thread)
Bf108 would definitely be nice also for touring the sexy maps....

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

I think when you are talking about what should be added you need to keep the scope narrowed to this particular period.. A Ju52 was HUGE in the LW, buts its role in the BoB was next to ZERO.

I would want in this order...

SpitMkI
SpitMkIA
Hurricane MkI

Bf109E3

Get the FM's of these fixed before worrying about ANY new work They are the cornerstone of any BoB scenario

Once that is sorted out, then Add the Do-17Z as a flyable, Add the Bf109E4..

A Bolten Paul Defiant would look really cool.. but in practical terms it would end up as popular as it was effective..so maybe its not worth the time that iwould be taken away from something more pressing.

I must say, I'm inclined to "stick" with one aircraft for a few months - it takes me a long time to get familiar with the controls and handling of it and I really don't enjoy leaping into the cockpits of "strange" aircraft for a quick "spin" - everyone to their own though!

I would also prefer to have fewer aircraft that are each as near-perfect as one can get them (graphics-wise, performance-wise etc) ... and to have all the other aspects of the sim/game fine-tuned to the "nth degree"!

Just my "two pennies" worth!

Salute

What we need is the current aircraft performing up to their July-Sept 1940 specs.

That means +12 boost Spitfire IA's, Hurricane I's and Spitfire II's.

Also means 1.40 ata 109E3's.

Spitfire MKIa with +12 boost and constant speed propellor.

Fix the FM of what is already there!!!
Make the wing guns of the 109 switchable: MG17 <-> MG/FF <-> MG/FF-M
Wellington and Do-17 / 215
That might imho be realistic to realize with a minimal workload.

+1 for the F4! Szeva !:)

Absolutely +1

As long as the constantly jamming cannons are not modelled as well...........;)

Typical!!!

with the current porked FM the fights are already limited to conditions where the Spits are already "uber" and then they should also get the incorrectly working cannons.

Go and fly arcade! :-D

Here's a few suggestions...

Short Stirling, Vickers Wellesley, Handley Page Hampden, Fairey Swordfish, Fairey Battle.

The German marques are correct for the types available in 1940, apart from a few floatplane aircraft that only saw limited service in the BoB.

the ME 262 was designed in 1939 but didnt manage to get to operational status due to the engine problems untill mid 1944

Calm down, did you not notice the little icon at the end? It signifies a tongue-in-cheek comment, ie, NOT SERIOUS.

i think the planes are realistic and eny how its not the plane its the pilot a good fighter pilot can make a good fighter out of eny fighter aircraft

Now that is a dumb repost!

It is not only the dogfight that counts, the tactic used beforehand, to get in a favorable position before starting the fight, to be able to bounce.

Below the spit has the speed and maneuverability better than the 109, above 5000 m the 109 starts to show its strengths.
As the porked FM is atm the power of all planes starts to detoriate above 3000m with a actual service ceiling of about 7.500 m for the 109 i.e. instead of 11.000 m

Only 3 prototypes was around, until December 1940, too late for BoB.:(

There are so many planes i want them all. I cant make really a choise.

I love German and British aircraft too but i must say there was one wich was not modeld in 1946. (

I would like to see a Westland Whirlwind as it is a totally new plane in the IL series and there were only 116 build.


For the German side the Bf109E-4.

To all of the people that are requesting Me 262s and the like...

Remember, this game is set in 1940, so unless your aircraft make and model was in squardon service during the Battle of Britain either with the Allies or Axis powers, you are not embracing the spirit of the game by asking for aircraft that weren't in service during the Summer of 1940.

I'm certain that this game will spawn sequels set later in the war, so let's try and keep things historically accurate, as that's what the developers have tried to do thus far...??

The aircraft I mentioned in my earlier post were all in squadron service in 1939-40.

109 e4, 109f4 and 190a4 and im happy ;) ah ok and a lot of spits and hurris etc to shoot down :D

Sunderland, Dornier Do-18 and He-115 flyable, what else? Ok. E-4 first... ;)

P39 and BF109 F/G2 please.

Hmm most seem to be very fighter fixated.
What about these?
Armstrong Whitworth AW38 Whitley
http://www.century-of-flight.net/Avi...mages12/45.jpg
http://www.rafabingdon10otu.co.uk/si...res/img028.jpg
Blackburn Iris
http://www.century-of-flight.net/Avi...ww2/2/iris.jpg
Blackburn Botha
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/unitedki...n-botha-02.jpg

But I guess the majority wish to stick with the standard course of fighters, fighters, fighters.....:rolleyes:

If its strictly BoB era then really need more Bomber Command aircraft

Fairey Battle
Armstrong Whitworth Whitley
Handley Page Hampden

Lets not forget all those increadibly well thought out leaflet dropping missions!

Bet that would kill the game engine modeling thousands of tiny bits of paper, then again maybe thats not such a good idea....

Westland Lysander

Indeed sir!

Then we could include Number 6 Squadron operations in the sim, which would make one of my flying mates (formerly of No. 6) very happy.

Still, I drool for the Walrus and the Anson.

Please please. We need Fw190...

http://descargas.carrefour.es/images...COD_ES_140.gif

Spit pursuit to Fw190 over Chanel, Imaga from cover to box game :)

This is 1940 sir.

An FW 190 or 109 F or Spit V are the last things we need.

I want a Convair NB-36 pl0x!

It would take years to model!!!!

:grin:

Think of the game box art as like a "Serving Suggestion", a bit like the picture on a box of frozen food, that rarely matches what's actually inside......:lol:

I think the Fw-190 would be a good one :D And the Devoitine 520! Not really battle of britain material, but surely, the game, like for the original IL-2 will extend to greater (greater by size, time periods and locations) theaters.

Also on a side note before all of these I think the Su 26 should be made flyable asap.

I just want a plane that flies above 20 000 ft without having a fit

I think it the primary thing would be the equalisation of the time line, in which the RAF has a huge benefit currently.

The present most modern luftwaffe fighter with these armorless cocpit, DB 601 engine and MG-FF weapon enters service in early 1939, in Spanish Civil War*

The first Spitfire Mk II enters in service in Aug 1940. The Germans got the 109 E-7 in the same month. An Bf 109 E-4, DB 601/N engine and a MG-FF/M cannon were received already on the same summer. From E-4 the German airplanes were equipped with Armoured cocpit, automatic prop pitch and automatic water radiator system (i mention the most important ones only).

So, the Hispano may wait for a short time...:rolleyes:


*"Early in the year (1939) J/88 had recieved 40 new cannon-armed Bf 109 E fighters, and the outdated early marks were passed to Gruppo 5-G-5. On 5 March Mölders's replacement as leader of 3 Staffel." (Osprey Airwar3 - Christopher Shores: Spanish Civil War Air Forces, page 42)

IMHO just let the guys at 1C fix what we have. Then give us the tools to build our own add ons (to be approved by 1C after testing of course). This sim would be a monster in no time.

Clearly we all would like to see various extra aircraft added to CoD at some point.
Im sure the devs would be only to happy to provide additional aircraft as this would turn out to be a nice little earner for them. Unfortunatly any later type aircraft added make any previous models obsolete. Who wants to fly their 109D against a P51 or Tempest ? Fancy your chances in a MKII Spit against a long nose FW ? Thought not, neither do I.
Clearly for the U.S market the devs would have a chance of greater sales if they included U.S aircraft. But the problem is that moves us on too 1943 in the timeline, and a lot happened between 1940-1943.
Perhaps they are considering the "Eagle Squadrons" of the RAF manned by US volunteers. But even with this scenario we are talking 1941,
So additional aircraft must be added along a timeline or within a scenario
When new scenarios ie maps are added clearly the will be stand alone addons
so perhaps we can look forward to

North Africa , Its a gift, sparse landscape ideal for frame rates, lotsa strafing , always fun and not to much work for additional aircraft

Eastern front , clearly the devs true love.

Pacific war , Whole new conflict type ( I do love the Zero)

Last days of the Reich, The finest Allied and German fighters battling it out over Germany.

Clearly creating new maps is not a priority on the devs list, however it would be rather easy to move the present map onto a 1942-3 setting with the advantage of being able to add the P47, Later spits, FW190 and later 109s and perhaps the B17.

Once this game (sorry sim) is sorted and more playable lets say six months this potental to sell essentially the same game over and over to a loyal and dedicated core of fans for the next ten years must be any accountants dream.