Freetrack interface use in IL-2:CoD
 

Just vote and let's see the results. No discussion, just some info.

You forgot the I don't care option - which applies to all of the current TIR users.

I know a lot of TIR users that will like to have Freetrack interface integrated in IL-2:CoD. Some of them are in my squadron. In my squadron we have TIR users, Freetrack users and even people that hate HT devices and have headaches when using it. But all like to have options.

If you don't care, just don't vote. The option is available.

I didn't post to piss you off.
The question is: what is your goal with the poll.
I would think it's to sense a trend or the needs of customers, for that your two options are not enough.
Unless, of course you just want to proof your pov.

I think I'll vote against it, although I really love my FT setup. :grin:

My point is simple: see how many FT users will like to see it into IL-2:CoD, and how much people don't want, hate, whatever feeling they have against FT and have concerns about it make into IL-2:CoD.

If you are not mature enough to undestand that, you are one of the 3 people that vote against. Congrats! It's an opinion too! :cool:

I would like to know how many of those who voted against freetrack support are TrackIR users.

Atm I can tell you 33% have both. ;)

Based on what?There was another poll before?

I suppose that when Swiss voted they where 3 votes against, Swiss have both FT and TIR so 33% is refered about itself, right? :cool:

This poll is so pointless....

Nobody can be against a improvement, except "sad sacks" maybe.

I'd prefer access to the six head control axes (like DCS:A-10C gives), rather than anything 'special' for FT. No vote from me.

Swiss is right, there is no "don't care option". There aren't any options for any other tracker though, only a single selection.

poll could have used more thought

And because of that, you voted no.

Please, do a favor to yourself and get a life. This poll is just about FT interface. I like to see FT interface, TIR interface, direct acess to axes... And I'm not a moron that will vote "no" even in one TIR interface poll.

Some people here are pathetic, sorry to say.

that would have been better to put up a poll around, eh

something like:
headtracker access through hacks?
headtracker access without hacks?
don't care either way?

You should find yourself a job in marketing, maybe as a specialist for surveys.
It's funny you actually try to force the result you seek for.


Just in case there was a misunderstanding, let me present an example:
Basis: 100 people

- 30 of them want FT included (for whatever reason)
- 10 don't (see above)
- 60 don't care

Now you got scientific proof the majority doesn't care / doesn't want it to be included.
But this result wouldn't serve your purpose, instead you prefer to just cut out the "30 vs 10" to proof your point.
How cunning! :grin:

Your forgeting the other side of the ledger there buddy. Actually, 90 people want it or don't care and only 10 sad sacks don't. Clearly a larger majority than you first thought! But it is your example.:)

An old axiom:

Figures lie and liars figure.

Personally I don't care.

Far more important things to worry about, but you gents please continue your slagging match as it is a wonderful way to boost post counts.


+1

its a rigged poll Blaster, which proves the last two points made

info

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeTrack

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeTrack

Solidarity brother!!!

hooking up through mouse look, looks promising

Let's not turn this into another slagging match. I voted yes but not because Freetrack is perfect, just for the sake of extra options.

A better poll would be asking "do you want support for alternative headtracking methods in CoD through a generic 6 axis interface?", but that's just my personal opinion ;)

Who but freetrack users - or potential freetrack users - would even have an opinion about this?

This is like making a poll in this forum about whether the gaming industry should make more combat flight sims.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-selection_bias

I voted no because freetrack users are too pushy and fanatical :D

They also tend to be smug and superior about how they built it themselves.

I voted yes because monopolies are bad.

there is no monopoly though... that's a fallacy to think there is.

Pacific Fighters had people hooking up webcams through Cachya to Mouse Look, same with Flaming Cliffs (iirc)

Hardly the same thing, I mean I could set up FT to use mouselook but it will never be as good as native support. In games such as this FT support should be a given as it has a relatively large userbase, it would be relatively easy to include it and best of all it won't cost the developer anything (other than a little time of course).

I'm not saying they should have it in at launch or anything, i'm sure there are many other things to work on but they could do what Boheimean Interactive did and patch it in at some point. I can't really see why anyone here is against it. Choice is always a good thing.

Sure... but, if CoD has the same strategy as DCS A10c 64Bit then we FT users should give you some address where you could send us some beers.

Yeah... That's the spirit! But maybe... just maybe... they are a bit more superior by being able to do their own beer. Sure is frustrating for you... but you can always brag about the great label yours has... :grin:

mouse look is native, vicinity ;)


I agree with you there... it is a good thing

I was talking about native Freetrack support, as in using their api to achieve 6DOF.

I have just read the whole other Free track thread. You should look up the definition of monopoly. Natural Point definately HAS one, and it's understandable why, given that it's a market they created.

Oh and so this doesn't turn into another FT vs. NP argument I am currently a FT user though I do intend at some point in the future to pick up a TIR. Both have their advantages and disadvantages but like I say support for both is good for everyone. :)

by the sounds of it, you already have the TIR software though ;)

Actually yes, I do - and no, i'm not taking about some dll file that came with freetrack. I downloaded it from the NP website to see how it compared. There was no awesome skull which obviously means freetrack is better. ;)

primary colours and shiny things, eh? ;)

I have a TIR, but I don't mind if there's support for Freetrak. I mean, why should I?

I´m TIR user and I do care!
TIR is only one kind of a headtracker. If there is a cheaper but also working solution it makes sense to provide an access to it.

The immersion is much hígher while playing with a headtracking device. With more player gaining benefit from it the more stable the community will be.

Plus your point just sounds a little selfish. :cool:

TrackIR owner here, BUT I voted for FT to be inluded. I mean why not????

I don't see that FT, or any other headtracking, shouldn't be included in principle... the sticking point is the files FT and some other headtracking needs to use.

I don't believe Swiss made a selfish point there, W32Blaster. Swiss, and others, did however point out the shortcomings in the way the poll was set up, which perhaps may be being read out of context. In any case, the poll forces a for or against, which doesn't really reflect what the poll should be all about.

Of course headtracking offers much higher immersion levels, there's no doubt about that though the community seems to be unstable/ split basically over what appears by some, on what they feel should be the right to hack software, and to others the right to have software protected.

W-R, let's not regurgitate the other thread here. You know, the one where we reached a consensus that if more games offer native support for alternative head trackers in the form of a generic 6-axis interface, then the alternative trackers won't need to use "hacked" naturalpoint dll files.

This poll might be wrongly worded in that it only mentions freetrack, but please let's all use it as an indication for the community's wish to include support for alternative head tracking in general, instead of as a stepping stone to sidetrack the discussion into what constitutes hacking.

This poll should be about extra options, it shouldn't be about "freetrack rules/sucks" or "are you a hacker?yes/no".

See, the fine thing about democracies is: People can have different views.


How could anyone be against something the get for free?*
(I don't care about the piracy thing, I'm guilty of that myself)
I was forced into the "no" answer - the whole thing is so rigged I refuse to help him prove his point. Whenever I feel one comes up with the wrong arguments I switch sides, which often results in finding myself fighting on the side of the enemy. Sometimes confusing - but always great fun.

Also:
If OM made a deal with NP and got desperately needed cash for it - great.

*Unfortunately, there is no such thing as free lunch.
Well, in the IL2 community maybe - then again I think this is wrong too.
We get all this updates and mods for free; UP, 4.xx, you name it - yet the servers are struggling for survival because the (majority of the)community is to greedy to donate once in while.
What kind of "community" is that supposed to be?

Sir, given Switzerland's long history of neutrality and your line of reasoning, I put forth the propostion that you should withhold your vote on this matter. Just something to consider. Good day. ;)

Something the swiss are not accustomed to - in single year we have to vote
more often than the average citizen of any other democracy in his whole life.
:cool:

Btw: We have also a history of selling our sons as mercenaries to whomever pays most. Often this led to swiss fighting against each other for some foreign power.

Well, every poll has its random element and every poll can be spun. Personally, I think removing the portion of the population that has "no opinion" on the matter reduces the likelihood of the poll being spun. However, everyone has their own opinion and should vote (or not vote) accordingly. Carry on mercenary Swiss.:-)

Come on, with this poll lobi tried to create an argument to convince the devs a FT interface is absolutely necessary because it's the wish of the majority of this community.
Interesting idea, but it's just not gonna work with a two options only, love/hate poll.
Why should I play along such a sorry game?
It's much more fun to take the job of the party pooper.

What a dumb poll. You might as well have made a poll like this:
Do you want everyone to be happy? (are you good?)
Do you want some people to be unhappy? (are you evil?)

A better poll would have been:

Given the choise, which head tracking system do you intend on using for CoD?

You would get much better results that way.

The poll is what it is. I see nothing devious in it's intent. Granted, it is not scientific. It is simply another way to communicate to 1C Company that there is a desire by a segment of the CoD market to have Freetrack functionality included in the game. That's all it is! Nothing about majority/minority or it being "absolutely necessary". Fact is, purchasing decisions are driven by these types of things. I think it is reasonable to assume that some of us won't buy CoD if we can't use Freetrack. This poll is an effort to try and avoid that reality. Fact is, I'm not going to go back to flying with a mouse after the hassle of learning to fly using headtracking and I'm not going to buy TrakIR when I have Freetrack system that works just fine for me. I don't even use 6DoF when it is available. I don't like jerking my head back and forth like an ostrich. I use a zoom script for that.

TrackIR owner myself. I voted for supporting/allowing other available head tracking methods. It gives the players with low cashflow a way to enjoy the game on the same level. It also creates a more level playing field. It would also takes away complaints that people who can afford the gadgets, that increase the enjoyment and the immersion, are cheating.

That's exactly the way i feel as well.

Same here.

I hate monopolies, even if I will not use any king of headtracking.
TrackIR (3, 4 & 5), TrackIR 1 & 2, Freetrack, NewView, GlovePIE, hat switch, mouse, keyboard and so on, please. ;)


santobr.

Mate, you just said exactly the same I did in the post you're referring to, though I don't know you extrapolated the "are you a hacker, yes/ no?" from it.

Yes, the poll is poorly worded and there is as clear a consensus on that as there is on games supporting alternative headtracking to TrackIR. There's no mistaking it.
As well, a community instability/ split was pointed out... yes, there is that and what the crux of that instability/ split is, was pointed out.
Let's be clear about it, that is what what the instability/ split is , isn't it... the right to hack or protect, yes?


"All truth passes through three stages...
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer

Schopenhauer, an early 1800's philospher, in an essay on rhetoric, wrote:

"A last trick is to become personal, insulting, rude, as soon as you perceive that your opponent has the upper hand, and that you are going to come off worst. It consists in passing from the subject of dispute, as from a lost game, to the disputant himself, and in some way attacking his person.... But in becoming personal you leave the subject altogether, and turn your attack to his person, by remarks of an offensive and spiteful character."


*Edit

The poll as it is, forces a yes/ no response for one product and the results of which would be used more than likely mischieviously to prove a point of view, if only taken as such. At least the comments contained here reflect at least the voter's intention for their vote,.

I have a TrackIR4 - cost me ~U$ 270,00! Vote for CoD support for Freetrack and others HeadTrack alternatives too.

Sokol1

$270? Holy cow - when was that?

This because TIR is not worldwide distributed and he had to import it or buy from someone who imported, paying international mail and more taxes to the government. More the gain of the one who imported if they adquired this way. Here we pay 60% (for imported procuts, except printed material (books, magazines etc), this case 0%) over the product and over the shiping expenses. This is ~ $270. This is called "Zil Zil Zil Zil cost".


P.S.: If Oleg distribute CoD worldwide via download we ll not pay 60% over it, only ~ 3% over the credit card bill. This is the tax over the money going outside the country.

If you don't mind me asking, what country is this you mean?






*Edit

That's around what they (TIR4 Pro) were down here in OZ (iirc) when they first came out. They go for around AUD/US$150 now. TIR5 can be imported to OZ direct from NP for approximately AUD/US$224 and can be found locally from between AUD/US$220 ~ 350, depending on outlet and if it is the Pro or clip version and includes tax. One thing OZ does as far as overseas buying goes (and duty free) is there is AUD/US$1,000 threshold before tax kicks in. That puts the buyer into possible Grey Market and is a can of worms in itself. Shipping method though can wipeout any tax savings.

Sounds like Brazil.

One of the Pigs is from there and getting any good sim gear is a real challenge.

Thanks for that... yeah 60% import duty + another 18% on top.
The 3% isn't tax though, it's what the Credit Card company charges the vendor for using the system, it is world wide that one.

83.95% votes for Freetrack suport by now...

Maybe it's mean something.

Freetrack support definitely!

Many sim enthusiasts are very creative with their set-ups, often building parts and constructing their own pits with varying levels of complexity. Freetrack can slot into these builds very nicely.

Dissect a webcam (IR filter removal), construct your tracking points with IR LEDS or a mounted IR light source with reflective tracking and you have something that is absolutely on a par with TrackIR with full 6DOF. The reward is you constructed it yourself, it cost very little and it works perfectly.

I have used Freetrack in IL-2, worked great. I currently use it in WoP and it is implemented perfectly.

Glo

I have been using FreeTrack for a long time now and works like a charm. I didn't have to remove the IR filter on my cam either, i just close the blinds and use bright LEDs. It would really be a bad thing not to have support for it in CoD.

LIke some mentioned earlier... disengenious use of a poll ;)

84.52%... If you dislike it, create an ingenious poll yourself.

[IRONY]There is no "I don't vote in polls" option[/IRONY]

If people didn't care why would they vote or even take part in a discussion about it? :confused:

No need at all. This poll is just to see who will like to have Freetrack Suport (majority users of Freetrack) and people who work for NP or don't understand a line about how Freetrack works and the marketing policies of NP.

Simple!

My poll would be
 

How many people want to have the devs spend effort on Free Track support instead of putting that same effort into a dynamic campaign.

Or dynamic weather
Or a malta add on
Or the Channel front add on
Or any other thing that really matters.
Not that this doesn't matter, but what does it matter more then? That is the issue.

I bet Ubisoft would love to have you work in their marketing department.:-P

Lobisomem i understand your point of view, i am favourable to free track support and voted the same way. But you need to be polite and political or people ll be angry and ll vote contrary to you. If you want your requests respected you need to be respectfull and use good arguments, not verbal violence.

If some people are not intelectually honest or acting by interest leave them so, just defend your view and not use "ad hominem" arguments. Try to put things in a constructive way, ever.

If I flood this forum with polite and logical arguments the same will happen: no dev can even post a word about that, and the NP faketrollguys will write the same old lies and nonsense.

It's IMPOSSIBLE to "raise this cause" in a "polite" manner: devs can't even discuss the subject, it's pathetic!

What is sad is that some people "don't care" and "don't bother" with this kind of thing. That's too much stupidity for me...

What a world...

if FT operated in an honest clean manner, you'd find arguing your part a lot easier

Now it's the "NP Troll's" fault you don't get a reply from Luthier?
Take a deeeeeeeeep breath.


Well, to be honest I don't care about people dying in Afrika either.
Sure, I would be better if they didn't - but I don't even think about them.

I do care about whales 'tho - funny, isn't it?

Lobi...
you use the "FreeTrack Route" huh?

here's a thought, which may help your cause... could you (or anyone else) put up a shot of the FT software page that show's how the "Freetrack route" or for that matter, the "simconnect route" is selected?

*Edit (also indicating which software version)

no Simconnect selection, Blaster?

Probably true regarding FT. But why the absolute silence about allowing ANY controller (stick etc) to control the head axes?

Interfaces available - also key output on next tab.

Latest version, 2.2.0.279

PPJoy becomes available when you have it installed. It is my preferred method, but I'm on a different computer so it's greyed out.

At least by the silence, there is no way they can be subject to abuse?




*Edit

what is the TrackIR Interface tick box for, what's the file listed on the same line... and why was Blaster hiding it?

I vote for using XBOX 360 Kinect instead :D

... or maybe a Wii mote.

Rubbish. They'll cop more flak for not doing the logical thing and allowing access to the head control axes.

You know perfectly well what it's for. Why you have to keep making the same point (amongst a bunch of other strange questions and straw-man arguments) that you don't like the way FT interfaces/uses/emulates NP software is beyond me.
Until game devs do the logical thing (apart from those who already have!) and allow head axes to be assigned to, like joystick axes, I just don't care how head pose is communicated.

@ Galway

I'd wait for the VR helmet... screen resolution on touchphones, etc are really good now, so it shouldn't long.

VR Helmet with a wrap around curved high res screen, incorporated speakers and mic. and best of all - offering proper peripheral vision... yum!. Set the zero reference and hit the virtual skies in full real full real. :)



*Edit

Why should they when it hack/ sponges off anothers' copyright and hard work? (I could explain "logical" to you, but I don't think you'll like it ;) ?)

See point above

Mouse Look (aka Freelook) is available, as you well know... and why should any legitimate developer entertain the incorporation of a product which attracts abuse and threats from its users, or deal with liars, or incorporate a program/s which has/ have questionable ongoing support?

Freetrack has the CRAP TIR interface, the old one, because GAME DEVS DON'T USE FREETRACK INTERFACE IN ALL GAMES!

It's clear ENOUGH for you? And I go further: they don't use Freetrack interface, they dont give an OPEN 6DOF HT solution and EVEN CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE SUBJECT because of NP sick trying to keep a marketing that they clearly see will lose, because any decent today CPU and cheap webcam can provide very good HT experience.

NP can close, I don't care! I care about how I spend MY MONEY in a CPU, MY MONEY in a webcam, mount some led assembly and have all the hardware to have 6DOF HT.

But I need that the game devs put suport for the FREE Fretrack interface, that's have NOTHING TO DO WITH TIR INTERFACE into their games!

BIS devs made it! They have the GUTS to do that! If some company can't survive into market without all this FEAR of a small free software, that uses cheap webcams, its a CRAP company, I'm sorry to said.

It's pathetic... And people still talking nonsense about NP products, policies... They sell cheap IR webcams and mediocre software for HT based on IR detection, by God sake! It's TRIVIAL!!!

This community makes me a little sick. In BIS forums the suport for Freetrack was MASSIVE, even with NP trolls... Here, the community is weak, and maybe the sells prediced with IL-2:CoD made the devs trying to make some cash from "other" sources...

I don't give a crap anymore. If Oleg put Freetrack interface suport in IL-2:CoD, will be good. If not, maybe W-R have more "workarounds" to curse, because the Freetrack community is light years away form mediocre NP.

Simple as that! Bye!

Because the USERS of both Freetrack and the game in question demand?

Maybe you can ask to Bohemia Interactive these questions... Or you can't?

But maybe ArmAII and O:A don't have the same standards that IL-2:CoD will have... You can tell this to BIS too... They are a company who does "crap" military sims... LOL!

You talk a lot of crap. We can't be "polite", the "normal" path is a "moderator" close the topic without A WORD form devs.

Shame!

but LoBi... we're told FT doesn't have access to NP anymore? Looks like porkies are being told

yes, LoBi, that why FSX FT users pass over the Simconnect in favour of the TIR hack.... because TIR is a crap product, huh?




*Edit

your second... Why should nyone listen to demands and threats??

has anyone actually made a polite and professional approach, with a supported product that doesn't call in questions of infringement?

Talk about Bohemia Interactive, please... I'll like to hear!

I'm talking about Freetrack Interface, not SimConnect or TIR. I use Freetrack Interface in ArmAII and works like charm!

Bohemia Interactive have problems now with "questions of infringement"?

Games devs should listen the demands of their consumers. It's good for the sales...

how does it work.. the Ft interface in ArmAII? does it hook into Mouse Look?



*Edit

wrong Lobi... people will always listen to requests, demands tend to fall on deaf ears

No, it hook into Freetrack Interface. You select the controler "Freetrack" into ArmAII or O:A and assign Freetrack axis as controls. Isn't "Mouse Look".

And ArmAII is a "TrackIR Enhanced Game"... The world is strange... Please can you explain me?

what is the magic bit though?

(I'll bring Julian's post up again later for other's to view)

I don't know! Can you explain me, please, all these magical things?!?!?!?!

Windows game controller axes do not need any NP software to interface with. Allowing anyone to control head axes with any game controller is absolutely not a hack, and absolutely not sponging of anyone's copyright or hard work:
1. Head control in games is under no-ones copyright (ie mouse/POV hat/whatever device moving the in-game head).
2. The method that windows game controllers use to interface with games is a Microsoft thing, nothing to do with NP.

I suppose you'll now tell me that the sky is red?

we're not talking about Windows game controllers, Julian, the subject at hand is the inclusion of alternative headtrackers to the TIR


@Lobi

So, on top of the demands, intimidations and what are tantamount to outright lies concerning FT, you also don't understand how it works?

1) HT devices aren't "controllers"... Well, for me all are input devices...

2) I know! I want that YOU start to talk about HOW YOU believe Freetrack works, and why it's totally OK into ArmAII!

Let´s go...

@ loBi...
well, that's what I'm asking... does the FT hook into the mouselook? (to be clear, I see mouselook as a defacto generic interface, that's why I keep mentioning it ;) )

I don't care what you were talking about - if you quote a post and agree or disagree, then that is the subject at hand. And as the meaning of game devs "allowing access to the head control axes" is perfectly clear, it's obvious that you've used the straw-man argument trick again, disagreeing with a point that I never made.

It's not surprising that people don't use such a method face-to-face.

none of that, however, has anything to do with the subject at hand, Julian.
The subject at hand, is the inclusion of alternative headtrackers to TIR, is it not?

now... I believe we're waiting for Lobi to get back to us (I mean if you're going to push a product, it should be understood how it works ;) )

I use mouselook into ArmAII to move my gun and shoot at enemies. To look around in another direction, lean and zoom, I use Freetrack hooked into Freetrack Interface...

Do you have ArmAII and Freetrack installed in your computer, W-R? You can try here and see how it works!

@ Lobi..
yes, you've said that before about the FT interface, but the bit I (for one) be curious about is; how does the interface interact with the ArmAII/ other game?

Maybe it's hard to discover... Can I have some time?


/************************************************** **********************
* freetrack_c_interface.c
*
* A simple command line application which reads the data from FreeTrack
* using the FreeTrackClient.dll interface.
*
* Assumes that a copy of the FreeTrackClient.dll is in the same folder,
* thought this does not necessarily have to be the same folder as the
* FreeTrack application itself.
*
* Based on code from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic-link_library
*
* Alastair Moore, December 2007
*
************************************************** **********************/

//#include <iostream>
//#include <tchar.h>
#include <windows.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <conio.h>

typedef struct
{
float yaw;
float pitch;
float roll;
float x;
float y;
float z;
int dataID;
}FreeTrackData;

// DLL function signatures
// These match those given in FTTypes.pas
// WINAPI is macro for __stdcall defined somewhere in the depths of windows.h
typedef bool (WINAPI *importGetData)(FreeTrackData * data);
typedef char *(WINAPI *importGetDllVersion)(void);
typedef void (WINAPI *importReportID)(int name);
typedef char *(WINAPI *importProvider)(void);


int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
//declare imported function pointers
importGetData getData;
importGetDllVersion getDllVersion;
importReportID reportID;
importProvider provider;

// create variables for exchanging data with the dll
FreeTrackData data;
FreeTrackData *pData;
pData = &data;
char *pDllVersion;
int name = 453;
char *pProvider;


// Load DLL file
HINSTANCE hinstLib = LoadLibrary("FreeTrackClient.dll");
if (hinstLib == NULL) {
printf("ERROR: unable to load DLL\n");
return 1;
}
else
{
printf("dll loaded\n");
}

// Get function pointers
getData = (importGetData)GetProcAddress(hinstLib, "FTGetData");
getDllVersion = (importGetDllVersion)GetProcAddress(hinstLib, "FTGetDllVersion");
reportID = (importReportID)GetProcAddress(hinstLib, "FTReportID");
provider = (importProvider)GetProcAddress(hinstLib, "FTProvider");

// Check they are valid
if (getData == NULL) {
printf("ERROR: unable to find 'FTGetData' function\n");
FreeLibrary(hinstLib);
return 1;
}
if (getDllVersion == NULL){
printf("ERROR: unable to find 'FTGetDllVersion' function\n");
FreeLibrary(hinstLib);
return 1;
}
if (reportID == NULL){
printf("ERROR: unable to find 'FTReportID' function\n");
FreeLibrary(hinstLib);
return 1;
}
if (reportID == NULL){
printf("ERROR: unable to find 'FTProvider' function\n");
FreeLibrary(hinstLib);
return 1;
}

// Print the address of each function
printf("FTGetData is at address: 0x%x\n",getData);
printf("FTGetDllVersion is at address: 0x%x\n",getDllVersion);
printf("FTReportID is at address: 0x%x\n",reportID);
printf("FTProvider is at address: 0x%x\n",provider);

// Call each function and display result
pDllVersion = getDllVersion();
printf("Dll Version: %s\n", pDllVersion);

pProvider = provider();
printf("Provider: %s\n", pProvider);

reportID(name); //not sure what this does - I guess it tells the dll that I am using it.

system("pause"); //wait till keyboard is pressed before entering main loop
while( kbhit() != 1)
{
system("cls"); //clear screen
if (getData(pData))
{
printf("Record ID: %d\n" , data.dataID);
printf("Yaw: %5.2f\n" , data.yaw );
printf("Pitch: %5.2f\n" , data.pitch );
printf("Roll: %5.2f\n" , data.roll );
printf("X: %5.2f\n" , data.x );
printf("Y: %5.2f\n" , data.y );
printf("Z: %5.2f\n" , data.z );
}
else
{
printf("Nothing returned from getData\n");
break;
}
}

// Unload DLL file
FreeLibrary(hinstLib);

return 0;
}


Now, drop dead, please... When I said it's EASY to devs to put Freetrack suport, it's open, have SDK, I didn't think that Oleg will not have time to create a dynamic campain...

Get a life now, please! And I still waisting my time in all this nonsense...

@LoBi...

That may or may not be what the interface itself is Lobi (it is also a copy/ paste from the FT site). Perhaps you could explain it to us? ... you know, put it into layman's terms?


I would suggest (based on your comments) that you don't use the FT Interface at all, LoBi

I'm not a programmer, but it looks like these are output variables for 6DoF:


if (getData(pData))
{
printf("Record ID: %d\n" , data.dataID);
printf("Yaw: %5.2f\n" , data.yaw );
printf("Pitch: %5.2f\n" , data.pitch );
printf("Roll: %5.2f\n" , data.roll );
printf("X: %5.2f\n" , data.x );
printf("Y: %5.2f\n" , data.y );
printf("Z: %5.2f\n" , data.z );
}
else
{
printf("Nothing returned from getData\n");
break;
}
}


Why can't CoD hook off that? I guess it is "C" language format.

I support alternatives too, but just chill out already. You're doing more damage than good.

And no, i i don't want NP to close because i have tried both FT and trackIR and for me trackIR was smoother and better. If NP closes i'll be stuck with the alternative solutions, however if NP stays in business and has to compete with the open source/free trackers, it's better for everyone: you can use FT with native support, i can use NP because either they will make an even better trackIR or they will start selling cheaper to stay in business..

Sorry mate, but sometimes your one-dimensional arguments are just as bad as those used by the people you are screaming against.


On the other hand, W-R you are dragging this poll the way of the other thread. Please stick to debating how it works there, where we all tried multiple times to explain to you how it works and yet you either refuse to understand or we're having some massive communication breakdown along the way...see my latest post in the other thread where i try to explain it in layman's terms by comparing apples and bananas (yes, it's come to using such simplistic examples because we're apparently having a massive communication issue).

If you want a short explanation, it's this:

If you want to point the finger at someone else, Blackdog... take note of in which direction the other three fingers are pointing
Some just aren't falling for your sophistry and you could probably do well to err, chill out yourself.
Now, I asked a very simple question, which I thought may have helped their FT cause... too bad it didn't and did irrepairable damage instead, considering the calls made were FT no longer uses TIR.